Showing posts with label 2011. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 2011. Show all posts

Sunday, March 2, 2014

Earmarked for Adventure

Do you like movies? If you do, you can understand how God made you and I for adventure, at least according to Pastor Rick.  He assumes a lot about what kind of movies we find appealing... and completely disregards books as an example.... but movies, it seems, is what he thinks will prove that you and I were made for "a great adventure."

"You and I were made for a great adventure—it’s why we like movies." ~Rick Warren 

God Created Us For Adventure by Rick Warren Ministry Today Mag.com, 

Life itself is actually an adventure in and of itself, but apparently we have to long for adventure.  Did you know that God made us to long for his adventure? 
(Note: "h" is not capitalized in "his.")

"God made us to long for adventure — his adventure.”
~Rick Warren 
http://purposedriven.com/blogs/dailyhope/

Rick often quotes from the Message... originally written as a novel by Eugene Peterson.... subsequently turned into a "Bible," but it's not a translation.
“God, who got you started in this spiritual adventure, shares with us the life of His Son and our master Jesus.” 1 Cor. 1:9 (Msg)"                                                                        ~Rick Warren 
  Saying Yes to God (Printable Message Notes)by Rick and Kay Warren http://purposedriven.com/day10/

And so why does he use The Message?   

 He uses it because the translations of the original languages do not say what he wants to present to the "church."  He only wants to make his own point.  You see, he rather scratch your adventurous ears than tell you about fellowship with Jesus and how you need Him.   He rather talk to you about you getting to have a "spiritual adventure" (like a great movie) one that "God" wants to take you on... with Rick Warren leading the way.  

However, there is nothing about a spiritual "adventure" in the verse Rick references in any of these other, truly translated, presentations of the Word.  Like a pied piper, Rick is misleading those who have itchy ears away from truth with his craftily selected words.

KJV reads: "God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son                         Jesus Christ our Lord."

NIV reads: " God is faithful, who has called you into fellowship with his Son, Jesus                         Christ our Lord."


NASB reads:  "God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with 
                     His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord."

TLB reads: "God will surely do this for you, for he always does just what he says,                             and he is the one who invited you into this wonderful friendship with                           his Son, even Christ our Lord."

Even the Living Bible, which is not a translation, does not fabricate the tale being told by Rick Warren about God giving you some kinds of a spiritual adventure.  What God actually did, was give you life and if you are a believer, he has given you eternal life.  He brings you into fellowship (friendship) with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who, by the way, is Lord, does not "Lord it over" us.  /in fact, he calls us friends.

 Rick says that God's will for you is to "live and lead in a spiritual adventure."  He says that God's plan is not for you to lead a mundane life.

"Never forget that.” God’s will for you is to live and lead in a spiritual adventure. The life that God plans for you is not a mundane boring life. It is an adventurous life."        ~Rick Warren 
http://pastors.com/re-ignite-passion-ministry/


So much for being a mom at home with little ones... that must not be God's will or plan, as that can be pretty "mundane," dull, boringm tedious, monotonous, tiresome, wearisome, uneventful, unexciting, uninteresting, repetitive, ordinary, routine, .... commonplace.  Rick offers a adcenture, a spiritual adventure instead.

You might wisely think to ask yourself...."Spiritual"  .... What spirit might that be of?  (The Bible, you might know, says that you should try, (test)  the "spirits," whether they are of God... for  many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1.)   

In 2006, PurposeDriven.com told people that the spiritual adventure was Rick Warren's P.E.A.C.E. Plan.  We wwere also told that Pastor Rick was created by God to implement this P.E.A.C.E. Plan.  It was described as a "wild ride" an "amazing spiritual adventure."   


"Please prayerfully consider attending this workshop to begin the process of preparing your church to engage in the P.E.A.C.E. Plan. Rick Warren has said repeatedly, “This is why God made me. Everything else I have done was simply preparation for the P.E.A.C.E. Plan.” If you choose to lead your Church to participate in the P.E.A.C.E. Plan it will be a wild ride and an amazing spiritual adventure for your members as they get God’s heart for the world, as God uses them to change lives, and together we bring global glory to God! 





John 17:14
"I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world."     ~ Jesus Christ

Matthew 24:9

" Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.  ~ Jesus Christ





"The influence of the book keeps amazing me everyday as I get requests for autographed copies. I have signed books for 1) All the Supreme Court Justices 2) One for Fidel Castro (!) 3) One for the President of Peru (these last 2 were spanish editions), and I even got a note saying that everyone on Air Force One was reading the book recently.  But all this is not about us. God's intention is much bigger than the book. It's all about the global glory of God! We intend to leverage the attention that the Purpose Driven Life has garnered to bring about a whole new way of thinking and acting in the church about our responsibility in the world. "
~Rick Warren
Peace Plan Letter Saddleback.com





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Sunday, January 6, 2013

Radical Mud

At Radicalis 2011, covering yourself with mud was a supposedly a symbolic expression of accepting and embracing the life of faith.


Radicalis Ends, But It's Also Just Begun
Sunday August 14 , 2011 Sarah J. Cruz
Reporting at Saddleback.com on Rick Warren's Radicalis
More info:http://www.radicalis.com/about/
http://www.radicalis.com/media/
https://www.facebook.com/radicalsonly


"To illustrate his message of diving in to the reality of living out God’s calling in our life despite the fact that life gets messy and difficult; he dipped his hands in to a bucket of mud. He spread it over his arms as he challenged the students to trust God, look to God, and fully live in his calling no matter the cost.

Buckets of mud were stationed in front of the stage, and Brad invited the students to come up and cover themselves in mud as a symbolic way of accepting and embracing the life of faith."

See these photos:

Photo Number Two


Interesting, provocative concept.... but it is quite odd, really, to put mud on yourself in light of the Christian teaching on baptism and commitment to Christ where water is used.  Many Christians who embraced a life of faith have ended up shedding their blood, (not mud) and this because they followed Jesus, no matter the cost.  Mud might be more "symbolic" of the sin that the waters of baptism washes away than living in God's calling.


Friday, August 19, 2011

Ted-X Orange Coast- Rick Warren ---"The 8 Questions of Innovation"

GREAT INNOVATIONS....  "TEDx"
Rick Warren was on a You Tube session that came across my desktop called "TED-X " This aired  May 23, 2011.  Rick Warren was one of several individuals giving talks on "Innovation" that day. 

He began his TEDx talk telling the audience that the quality of your life, in any area of your life will be determined by the kind of questions that you HAVE THE COURAGE to ask yourself in that area.  He raised his voice at the "have the courage" part.  He told his audience, "if you don't ask the right questions, you won't get the right answers."

This is worth watching because here, you get
to see Rick Warren in action.
Catch the way he yells at the audience in the beginning, 
raising his voice to command some kind
of control over his hearers.  
They need these theatrics
in order to listen to the
8 things they "need" to know.
(And note too that he says that he does
not want to talk about himself
and what he is doing... but he talks
about and promotes himself a lot.



Rick says, as he is about to tell you the "8 things you need to know," that, "you better write them down."
You see, you smart people,
(Are you a smart person?)
...will want to know these 8 things that
Rick does and is not so happy to share
with those who desire to
be great leaders, (just like him.)
learn these things from Rick,
And if you are a smart person,
you won't want to
miss a word he says.

Rick says, questioning is an art, a skill that you need to develop.

It's funny, but questioning sort of comes
naturally.  A four-year-old seem to
have no problem asking questions, but YOU,
have yet to learn this all important "skill.   Lucky you,
Rick is going to help you "develop" that skill
by teaching you what "questions"
(out of the millions there really are,
or that you might actually dream up on your own,
to ask......

But, question, smeshtion.... (Note: THAT is a made-up word!)


These really are not even questions.....  No.  No.  No.  They are not questions at all, for Rick suddenly turns them into..."nations."  Yes, Rick slickly, (or is it craftily?) applies the concept of these being the "Eight Nations" or, NO, Wait!  They are changing again....  Rather....... they are the  8 "IMAGINATIONS."  Yes, Yes.. that is it.. "imaginations!"
He tells the audience that these are the  "Nations in your mind." 

He also tells us that it is these "8" things he used to develop his campaigns, 40 day programs, various plans and to build Saddleback Church.

So, now, thanks to good ol[ Rick,
you .. yes, even YOU, can begin to ask the right,
(not wrong,) 
questions.
Yes.... you...can begin to IMAGINE along with Rick
something better, 
bigger, more alive and "innovative"
when it comes to your church, something better
than what has ever been before!

Interesting is this passage of scripture that says:

Because that, when they knew God,
they glorified him not as God,
neither were thankful; 
but became vain in their imaginations,
and their foolish heart was darkened.
Romans 1:21
The Eight Imaginations by Rick Warren
  1. Termination- What do I need to stop doing?
  2. Collaboration – How do we do it faster, larger, cheaper, or with a team?
  3. Combination - What can we mix together to make something new?
  4. Elimination - What part could we take out in order to make something similar?
  5. Reincarnation – What has died that we can bring back to life in a new format?
  6. Rejuvenation - How can we change the purpose for why we are doing it?
  7. Illumination – How can we look at it in a new light?
  8. Fascination – How can we make it more interesting?
Pardon me. Did YOU see anything in there, anything, about the Lord?
That is what I thought.  Me neither. 

Let's consider Rick's TEDx talk a little more closely,

1. HE says, is  "Termination. " 
According to Rick, you can have so many irons in the fire, that you put out the fire. The first question he therefore wants to teach people is to ask "yourself" is,  "What do I first need to stop?" (Before doing anything "new.." He calls this termination thing, creative destruction but then, Rick tells us that as his "mentor" Peter Drucker called it,  he also calls it,  "systematic abandonment."   To explain what termination is more clearly, Rick says, "When the horse is dead, dismount."


Note:  he makes it a clear point to mention Peter Drucker as his mentor. twice. 
                                                                         You can read more about Drucker, here.



"Termination," he says, " is often a key to future innovation."

This , perhaps,  somewhat explains why Rick makes 
every attempt to convince pastors
of Christian churches 
and their members, that their
congregations are dead, (or dying)
and preaches that Jesus,
He hopes they will
terminate their own church as they 
embrace the wisdom of Rick and 
implement in their congregations,
at their own expense, whatever
 "innovative" thing he is doing. 
P.E.A.C.E. Plan, Daniel Plan,
Celebrate Recovery...
40 days of Purpose, Community, Love....
and Purpose Driven (TM)
are simply the innovative products
Rick Warren wheels, deals and sells


Rick then took the opportunity to drop the name of  Joseph Shumpteter....an economist and political scientist who was perhaps best known for his promotion of "creative destruction," or rather, systematically "terminating" things in order to be innovative.

(Click on his name to listen to an interesting economics
lesson taught at YALE which talks 
about Shumpteter in light of Capitalism)

  
Rick's Purpose Driven Church,, is portrayed as being
so much more productive than all the rest.
We are, no doubt, expected to perceive this as
Rick projects upon us all the astronomical
numerical facts and figures relating
to his "accomplishments" in this world.

Funny thing, is,
we Christians should know and understand that
God's amazing Church
is bound to be productive and alive, if it abides in Him and His Word.
The Church is His doing, not our own.
God is the one who makes all things grow.
He gives life and sustenance to all things.

We see how Christianity has encompassed the globe,
(something clearly attested to by even Rick
as he expounds for us how
  he ccould really make use of
the accessibility of the churches
found everywhere in the world,
even the remotest villages.
 to implement his "P.E.A.C.E." Plan

It is these same Christian "churches" who are
and have been labeled as nothing but a "big mouth" by Rick.
Possibly because they are notoriously preaching
the good news of Jesus Christ.
But Rick berates those churches this way and
because they are small he labels them "unhealthy" 
only to make the subsequent offer to help doubting pastors get healthy
through his teachings and 
be just like Saddleback.

It helps to have Time Magazine and Christianity Today
inform readers of how great Rick is,
and portray Rick as an example of great leadership and
the Christian model of true success,
while he unashamed asserts that if Churches are not Purpose Driven... 
(not using his methods or business models 
like he and his mentor, Peter Drucker)
not growing exponentially like a yeast,
incorporating unbelievers into church services and worship,
balancing everything just so,
they are "unhealthy."
And Rick philosophy is that like dead horses
that need to be dismounted,
"unhealthy" things should be terminated.

Perfect doubt, it seems, casts about a lot of anxiety and fear.
  



Rick gives us his own example of terminating old, obsolete and boring things.  He tells about his old, mid-week bible study.  Terminating this gave way for his many and various  "campaigns."  He says that he would have never had so many small groups doing his programs if he hadn't "terminated" that.



2.  Collaboration-  
According to Rick, the "collaboration" question is, "How to do.... (anything)  faster, larger,  cheaper and, of course, "with a team."  Stressing the team aspect, Rick says that if you want to have a movement, you have to have a team.... you have to have "partners."  



"One of the secrets of Saddleback's growth", Rick told TED-x, is that they "have figured out " (Yes... this is hard to do, something not everyone CAN do, only the really smart can do this "figuring out stuff you know.)  They have, "figured out  how to mobilize people." (Rick also indicated that another term for "collaboration" is Coordination.)  He says you need to have "coordination."

Who is doing, leading planning and implementing this co-ordination?
We can only guess.  Probably Rick.
.
He talked here about the program he has coordinated at Saddleback called  Forty days of Community, and how they had been feeding all of the homeless people in Orange County, all of them!  He said they served up "126,000 meals"...fed them for "for forty days."

Wow...that is a lot of loaves and fish!

As we hear this and many other
spectacular feats of awe and wonder
regarding Rick and Saddleback,
and about the greatness
of his PEACE Plan too,
we cannot help but be impressed with
Super Rick.  There is hardly
a person or thing he doesn't know or know about,
 has done, or can do.
And boy can he coordinate and feed the hungry too.

What did those hungry, homeless people do 
for food after the forty days?


3. The third "rule," (He says "RULE." this instance, instead of "question" or "nation,") that you have to ask yourself is..... "Combination" 

"What could we mix together to create something new?"

Rick says, "What could we "blend," "merge," "make a synthesis of? "  and tells us, "We need to ask how we can "take things that are the exact opposite and put them together," things -like, "icy hot," and "sweet and sour"  or" peanut butter and chocolate." He then gives the example of his program "Celebrate Recovery" (being the combination of the 8 Beatitudes of Jesus with AA Alcoholics Anonymous' "12 Step" program,) and of course, we also hear about how great and widely implemented it is in prisons even.

This is a little more blatant self-promotion..... but note, 
what he is really promoting here is the dialectic..... 
Ask yourself, if you are a Christian and know
the truth....  are you willing to exchange it now, 
for something NEW, especially as Rick Warren
, infers they are somehow congruent, and juxtaposes it with something false
and creates something completely different from either
just for you and you church and family? 
He takes the church, founded on JEsus Christ, and the world,who hate JEsus CHrist, 
  two opposing forces,
and he combines and craftily mixes them both
into something creatively "new,"

or is it, innovative? 

   Is there anything "new" under the sun?


4, "Elimination"- Is the question where you ask yourself, "What part could we take out in order to make it simpler."
                                                               Here he also uses the opportunity to announce to all these
TED people, and you and me, his close associates as
he drops a "big name" as a "good friend," like "Steve Case."


Rick tells us that elimination is also known as "taking down the borders."  When he mentions boarders, he mentions also barriers... and he then goes on to explain that these "borders" are like, "emotional borders, it maybe, mental borders, financial borders, ethnic boarders or whatever..."

Can you think of any other borders he could list?

He uses the example of how at the beginning of Saddleback, in 1980 at 25 years old,  he, (being the clever innovator and man of far reaching vision and insight that he thinks he is,) simply had the innovative idea to eliminate the borders of "church walls" and thereby eliminated his need for a "church building," and, by the way, he said he was going to be the one to prove that such a feat of a 
church without a building was possible. 
And here is the "magic of Rick Warren at work,
while he has you thinking that he didn't use a building,
he did use many "buildings"...
schools, banks, camps, stadiums, 
tents, people's homes...
"89" different facilities, he said, 
which are most all "buildings,"
but he would have us believe that he is so clever and efficient that ...
he simply got rid of that unnecessary "border."


He says, this elimination part is "the big one."  Probably meaning the one that is most important in the list.



5. "Reincarnation"  Rick says, "The reincarnation question is, "What has died?... but we can bring it back to life in a new form?" 

Seriously.
"Reincarnation."
Not only that, when was the last time something really "died"
and anyone brought it back to life in a new form?

Rick says, "You take an old idea that has gone dead and you just reformat it. " 

 But then we learn... he is only talking ideas....
and then he takes credit for the implementation of the Internet.

Using the example of how for two thousand years the Christian church has used a systematic sequential training of beliefs, called "catechism" in the church, Rick asserts that this is something that has died.  He (via Saddleback) did a reincarnation of it though...  when they (a.k.a. he) "Put "TECH" back in Catechism....)  

Clever huh? 

It died, ( old idea that it was,  and "we" (meaning he and Saddleback) have taken that old idea, (catechism,)tweaked it, and you know, "reincarnated" it.



How interesting too, that this term, "reincarnation" is 
used as the concept of something which is 
supposed to be a "rule"to follow, one of the Eight Nations of the mind
for Christians to adhere to in order to be an "innovator," like Rick.


6. "Rejuvenation"- Rick says that this is "Related to reincarnation" The question related to rejuvenation  is, "How can we change the purpose or motivation for doing it?"  (or what we're doing.)   He says,  it's the "How and Why."  It's the "change the motivation" and "change the delivery system aspect.   With the example of his own now famous, Daniel Plan he says that his church is loosing 4,000 lbs a day since January, this because they have just done a little rejuvenation on the purpose of it." 

The purpose of.... what?  "Church?"



7." Illumination "How can we look at something in a new light." "You have to look at it with new eyes."  He says human beings have an amazing adaptability... and it takes new eyes sometimes.  After giving us his own life example with a light fixture in his home, he simply adapted to a lack of light over a period of time, he then comments on how we can never solve global problems unless we think of them in new ways.  

For example, men and women of faith,
people of all religious orientations can be part of the
PEACE Plan he offers.  They can be Purpose Driven
and part of congregations willing to help slay those five evil giants, 
serving the world with purpose" as their foundation,

After all, as he mentioned also,  there were those two imams.

Rick told us, "This is thinking in a new light...."

(Insert PEACE PLAN promo by Rick here.)

For someone who began by stating that he didn;t want to talk about what he was doing, but what you were doing....Rick sure talked about himself a lot.  Maybe this is because the idea is that you will be doing hat he does.  We heard once again about Rick's great innovation  and about how he is the heroic instigator of saving the world through what he calls the P.E.A.C.E. Plan   His plan to get houses of worship everywhere into global health care distribution.

Finally, there is number 8, "Fascination"  Here we ask how to make that innovative thing more "interesting" "appealing" "attractive" ...."mesmerizing."





Rick concludes saying,

" It's obvious,  our nation is in trouble right now." Then he says, "The only answer is "innovation,".... "in education, technology, business, arts... in every sector of society."


"Our nation is is trouble, right now!"and the "only answer is-----
.
---"INNOVATION?"

Really?


Not prayer or Jesus....
No "Biblical Principles," or even the mention
of reliance or or of faith and hope in God, 

just:  "Innovation."
Or...is it coming up with your own answers....
or is it the "Eight Imaginations,"
(You know, the "nations" of your mind?)

Ending his talk, Rick says,
"Never stop learning,"because,  "leaders are learners.""  The moment you stop learning you stop leading."


Some will be "ever-learning",...
(See: 2 Timothy 3: verse 4)
but will they every come to the knowledge of the truth?
Will they ever hear the gospel of God preached
about the Lamb of God, Christ Jesus?

Will they, who need no physician because they are so healthy,
ever call on the Great Physician to forgive their sin or heal their land?

Will they be so busy planning, serving, coordinating
and learning, about themselves, their own spiritual gifts,
their own heart and passions,
looking to use their own natural abilities
doing what suits their own personalities,
and having experiences,
...discovering their S.H.A.P.E.for monistry and  this whle they not only strive to ask the right questions to get the right answers and perfectly balance, not one,
but "five purposes" that they learn about from Rick,
in order to be "healthy,"
in their own imaginative "nations" in their mind, mesmerized
with sustaining themselves and their churches and
 meeting the physical needs of all the world all the time,
that they never stop long enough to look at Jesus
learn of Him and enter into the rest of God?

It sure is possible as Rick Warren
gets the attention of both the church and the world and
makes the things he is teaching look as if they are the things of God.



But to the church, those with ears to hear what the spirit says, Paul, who actually did know Jesus and men who walked with JEsus as well, who preached Christ and him crucified.... Paul the apostle wrote:

"Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, 
so these men also oppose the truth,
men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. 
But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all,
as was that of those two men. "



Friday, July 15, 2011

About that Brighter Future



How to have a brighter future:

 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, 
and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him  
from the dead, 
thou shalt be saved."   Romans 10:9

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Once again, it is interesting how Rick Warren offers his hearers a completely different kind of future, one he says is" brighter" and he fails to offer people the forgiveness for their sin through Jesus too.  Hos idea of a brighter future has nothing to do with the gospel and is based upon the rudiments of this world. 


Rick Warren concluded his recent, Belief Blog editorial for CNN, (July 3, 2011, ) a piece he titled, "Church is world's most powerful weapon against AIDS,"  by saying, "But if the church and other faith communities will step up to the table, and as governments and other health organizations welcome their assistance, the future can be brighter."  With no mention of the gospel in the article, one has to assume that a brighter future will be had "IF" the people of earth (the church and other faith communities,) would just "step up to the table."  What table he is talking about is anybody;s guess, but He presumes they don't and he wants to lead the church in an effort to help people with AIDS. 


AIDS is a terrible disease and as a disease, it is now become one of Warren's pet projects,. Taking on the issue of AIDS is not only politically correct in certain circles of influence, but is also demonstrates his concern for the welfare of humanity.  Not only that, fighting the terrible "giant" of disease is part of his "P.E.A.C.E. Plan," his plan for saving the world.  But what is AIDS?  What hope is there currently for people who are infected with AIDS?  Is a "brighter" future- the kind of future where the church and other faith communities come together to cure diseases like AIDS, all they really need?

AIDS, the acronym given to a disease known as Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.  As the name suggests is not a disease you are born with, but it's a slow attacking virus called HIV that is acquired, transmitted from person to person, through the exchange of bodily fluids, like blood.  The infected person who is infected with the virus, develops AIDS and then suffers the progressive failure of the body's immune system making them susceptible to all kinds of disease, including cancers, for which they have no defense.


If you remember the early 1980's, you might remember that AIDS, appeared on the health scene as a very serious health matter.  At first it seemed to be affecting homosexual males only, and as more and more people were dying, the concern about public health grew, especially when the disease appeared to transfer not only in sexual contact, but in the blood supply as several hemophiliacs were diagnosed. 

The now rapidly spreading disease rightly had the attention of the Center for Disease Control who began talking about how everyone, not just homosexuals, was at risk.  Our national supply of blood used in hospitals to aid in emergency situations and surgical procedures was being tainted with the HIV virus that caused AIDS.  It was not just the homosexual, the sexually promiscuous or needle drug users who were in danger, it was everyone and anyone who came into direct contact with bodily fluids, especially blood.  Scientists were working hard to find the disease's specific mechanism of spreading, hoping for a cure.  

Needless to say, fear spread far and wide about the possibilities for contracting the disease and people became vocal... and as such, you can guess that a lot of things were said, (as rick Points out in this article,) but with research, screenings to identify infected individuals and the ability to specifically identify tainted blood, as well as a better understanding of the progression of the disease a lot of  unrealistic fears have been quelled, but contrary to what some people think, AIDS remains a killer disease.  There is no cure.  AIDS leaves in it's wake sick people, broken lives, death, torn apart families and the real fear of contracting such a terrible, deadly disease unsuspectingly.

Click here to read a History of AIDS

Click here to read 30 years of AIDS moments 
 (Something recommended by Rick in this CNN article.)


As AIDS reaps it's devastation, it is kind of Rick to encourage people of all faith communities to lend those who are suffering, a compassionate, helping hand.  It's the right thing to do.  However, those who are dying, those who are facing death, who hunger and thirst for life need more than a helpful human hand that calls them to remind them to take their needed meds, as Rick, in the CNN article suggested as a practical way for the church to help the AIDS epidemic.  No, what they need is to  know God and the love of God in Jesus Christ.  They need to warned of where they are headed, told about Jesus, and be saved from the peril of death and doom, that awaits every sinner that is on their way through death's open door.

Unfortunately, right here, on CNN, writing to the world and the church, (Pastor) Rick fails once again to mention the gospel that leads to eternal life and a hope beyond the grave.   Instead he has apparently written to enlist the Christian church, (which he even called the world's most powerful weapon)  in helping governments and health organization, build for the world a brighter future.  But he wants to give hope to AIDS patients and the people he inisters to, so he titles the article, Church is world's most powerful weapon against AIDS." 


It should be noted that the church is powerful but the church is not the world's weapon.  There is power behind the church, making it powerful, but that power is not the church itself.  It is not in the numbers of Christians that there currently are in the world or in the large and measurable size of a churches congregation or building either, (contrary to what this man, (Rick,) so interested in numbers, might say or think.   The powerfulness of church is actually the power and glory of God, the Holy Spirit,  working in his people, doing and leading others into the will and work of God, which is believing on the one whom he sent.   In fact, the church, while is is not a "weapon," has it's own weapons that are nothing like the weapons of the world.  The church is God's and it originated with God; it was his idea from the beginning.  Since the "church" does not originate with man, but God; God is the owner of it and it is not the world's greatest weapon. 

Now some people, like Rick, might believe that if only the people of earth would all collaborate and work together there will be a brighter future for humanity, but this kind of salvation is only for this life.  It is not the same as the salvation we have in Jesus Christ which lasts forever, and ever.  It's the kind of salvation that is only helpful to you as long as you are alive and well on planet earth, but sooner, or later, one will  come to realize that this immortality is only for a limited time, for like everything else that experiences life on this planet, you...(yes you) ... die. Life underground with a body that is deceased and decayed, is not such a pretty picture and certainly not a "bright" future.

What happens to your being after you die?  Well, that is where faith comes in.  A person can believe many things.  Christians believe that life is sacred and special and meaningful.  They believe in a creator God and in his love for all of creation.  They also believe in God's love and forgiveness displayed in Jesus Christ, and they believe Him for the promise of Eternal life. They believe that because God is God and because God sent Jesus and because Jesus rose from death to life, and they believe upon him, they, like Jesus will live again
 

It can be quite perplexing when Rick, professing to be a Christian, neglects to tell the watching world what this Gospel is. Right here on CNN, again and in this article, Rick Warren skipped the gospel.
Yet in this article, he also finds fault with the church and complains they just do not do enough.  He then uses the guilt (or self-righteous thoughts people have in response to his accusations against THE CHURCH,) to get people moved into action, wanting to fight his cause. But slick Rick goes even a step further, than adding guilt to insult.  His special finishing touch, the thing wrapping his lack of the gospel up in a bow is flattery to those who would do as he bids.... those who want to be great and do great things like Rick.  He flatters people saying,  "Church" (this means YOU  church,) is the greatest weapon of the world.

But Pastor Rick should know the church is not "of the world,"  (John 18:36) and he should also know that we who are the church are not to be conformed to the pattern of the world,  (Romans 12:12)and yet, we see he thinks the Christian communities are just like all the other faith communities around. 
But let's talk about the "brighter" future that Rick does offer.... that future that "will be brighter. "if the church and other faith faith communities will step up to the table, and as governments and other health organizations welcome their assistance"  

You cannot have a  brighter future without light.  

Jesus said, “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body will be full of light.  But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!" (Matthew 6:22-23) NIV He also said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”(John 8:12) ESV  It's a bit ironic, maybe even a bit "protest-y," that Rick demands pastors and churches be "healthy," like him, and subsequently make use of being able to buy his books and programs by the score. 

So the question is, "How can Rick offer people a true brighter future, without JEsus, the light that comes from God?" The answer:  He can't.  Instead he offers them world government organizations (and Purpose Driven Lives.)

Rick's ideal future is  (see his P.E.A.C.E. Plan) is really no "hope" for anything other than a good life while you are alive and well, here on planet earth. 


"But if the church and other faith communities will step up to the table, and as governments and other health organizations welcome their assistance, the future can be brighter."
Rick Warren CNN Belief Blog editorial, July 3,2011





If in this life only we have hope in Christ, 
we are of all men most miserable.
1 Corinthians 15:19


See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.


Colossians 2:8

Wednesday, May 25, 2011

"Leaders don't do what they WANT to do;
they do whatever is necessary."  Rick Warren  Tweeted  5-24-11

Rick might as well have said, "whatever it takes," like he did in Anaheim stadium back in 2005 at the  Sadldleback Anniversary Party.  He told the crowd listening to him then, to hold up signs that said, "Whatever it takes" as they pledged to do the same.... "whatever" it takes.  


Rick gave a speech that day, saying how people in his projects had been on a secret mission:
"For the past 18 months we have been on a stealth, secret mission - project - around the world. We've been sending members out, actually over 4500 members somewhere overseas, over the period of the the last few years, going out to do what we're gonna call the PEACE plan......Friends, this is going to be a revolution. You see, over the years as we've been training these 400,000 churches around the world, we've built a network, and there are literally tens of thousands of other churches waiting to do what Saddleback has been testing the last few years.


What is the vision for the next twenty-five years? I'll tell you what it is. It is the global expansion of the Kingdom of God. It is the total mobilization of this church and the third part is the radical devotion of every believer. Now I choose that word radical intentionally. Because only radicals change the world. Everything great done in this world is done by passionate people. Moderate people get moderately nothing done.


In 1939, in a stadium much like this, in Munich Germany, they packed it out with young men and women in brown shirts, for a fanatical man standing behind a podium named Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil.  And in that stadium, those in brown shirts formed with their bodies a sign that said, in the whole stadium,

"Hitler, we are yours." And they nearly took the world.


Lenin once said, "give me 100 committed, totally committed men and I'll change the world." And, he nearly did. A few years ago, they took the sayings of Chairman Mao, in China, put them in a little red book, and a group of young people committed them to memory and put it in their minds and they took that nation, the largest nation in the world by storm because they committed to memory the sayings of the Chairman Mao. 

When I hear those kinds of stories, I think 'what would happen if American Christians, if world Christians, if just the Christians in this stadium, followers of Christ, would say 'Jesus, we are yours' ?

What kind of spiritual awakening would we have ?


"Jesus said, 'I want you to do this publicly.' So what I want you to do is take the card, and in just a minute, and if you say 'Rick, I am willing to serve God's purposes in my generation.'


I want you to open up to the sign that says 'Whatever it takes.'Whatever it takes.
And I want you to just say, 'This is my commitment, before God and in front of everybody else. I'm in.' "And I would invite you to just stand quietly and hold up 'Whatever it takes'. . .
I'm looking at a stadium full of people who are saying 'whatever it takes'.

Whatever it takes, God.  Time, talent, energy, money, effort, vision... God, whatever it takes.  Whatever it takes, that's what I'm going to do.
 
And I believe that today we are making history. We're making history that's going to start a movement that will bring a new Reformation in the church of God and a new spiritual awakening in our world. And, our world needs it. And today, as you say 'whatever it takes,' you're saying publicly,


"I'm in, God. I'm in...
...I'm in.' "

...
That was Rick Warren speaking, April 17, 2005, Anaheim Stadium. It has been a few years, but Rick has not changed his tune.  Seems he thinks those great leaders he mentioned... Hitler, Stalin and Mao, simply did what they had to do.  It was their "leaership" (you know) that made them "great."  Of course Rick wants to Christianize his concept, so he tells people to dedicate themselves to "JEsus" in this way, but why does he use Hitler and Stalin as examples of leadership and the greatness one can achieve through service.... doing, "whatever" it takes, to meet the end goal.  This is not Christian ways of thinking, the ends does not always justify the means.


Looking at Rick Warren's other recent tweets, I just want to say that am currently unimpressed that he has set himself up as some sort of wisdom guru as he tweets his own quips and quotes on life.. and most of which is in reguard to this idea, or concept of "leadership." HE is making an army of leaders.  Fynny thing, is that JEsus called us Christians to be followers and doers.... of the word.

What really kind of amazes me about Rick, even today, is that he seems to have a sort of "talent" or art in stroking the parts of a person psychologists call, "the Ego," and he uses it often.   He talks about the greatness one can achieve... the greatness YOU can achieve... but then, it's not about you.  I believe he uses this special art form quite effectively.  He knows how to get those with itching ears to heed his guru-like beck and call.  People in the crowd that day, held up signs to the world and told God, they would do "WHATEVER it takes" whatever is necessary, but "whatever" is a very big word, and it includes more than simply what is right, noble, holy, good, pure, lovely.... etc.

 I fear, that in the end, all those itching ears, people in the church in particular, who found themselves seeking greatness... maybe even seeking to do something great "for God".....will discover that they forsook the scriptures in order to listen to Rick, embraced this PEACE Plan and false, grand, wisdom and vision for the church and the world.  I wonder if those dreamers will wake up one day and find themselves without an anchor to the truth,  reading the purpose driven life instead of the bible, wondering, "What on earth went wrong?"




"Leaders don't do what they WANT to do;
they do whatever is necessary."



Other recent Rick Warren tweets:


 "The greatest leaders are those who develop followers who exceed their own skills & impact. It's not about you."   Rick Warren  5-24-11




So.. who is "it" about?  Rick doesn't mention that... just that it is not about YOU.--- and, what is "it" anyhow?  One thing is certain, Jesus died for YOU.... (and everyone else in the wolrd.) 
"Believe on JEsus and you will be saved."  That is what the scripture tells us.  
In a way it is about YOU....In't it?


"There are no secrets to success.The principles are visible to anyone who invests the time study those who've succeeded."  Rick Warren   5-23-11
So... if you you do not KNOW the principals, it's your own fault, because you didn;t 
take the time to study those who have succeeded... 
and one of those is obviously 
YOU KNOW WHO....

JEsus.... is probably not who he is talking about,
for if he were he would have mentioned him by name, and the funny thing is that Rick all always talking about "secrets" for being successful in his messages, 
which makes statements like this manipulative, at best.



 "God made your mind to be a storehouse of wisdom, not an outhouse of waste. Stop filling it with crap from our culture." Rick Warren, 5-22-11

Now I do not know about you, but in my opinion, this is rather rude and crude.  Besides, "crap" is not 
a very nice word to be flinging about at someone listening to or reading your words.  I mean, he could have been more precise and said, "desrtuctive" or "disgusting" 
but he didn't, he just resorted to the base word, "c---." 

I happen to live in a Christianized culture, and as such, there are a lot of good things and these are the things I tend to try to focus on.  How about you?  I am reminded that not every "culture" is bad.  This is nothing more than a blanket statement, a platitude, and really, it only serves to lump all sorts of thing to gether, some of which do not fit into the works.  It can serve as a trick to the mind, and leaves me to wonder, what culture, he is talking about. 
He does not say; so it is whatever culture you have in your mind.



Rick , if he is Christian, would do better to feed the sheep  who hear his speak
on the word of God, but he seldom does.  Instead, we get earthly, "leadership" wisdom, and examples to look to of leadership like Hitler, Stalin and Mau.



"You need Jesus as your Savior, Lord & Best Friend not because you'll die tonight but because you've got to live tomorrow."  Rick Warren,  5-21-11

Consider....
IS he saying living your life tomorrow,
(not death and the eternal life JEsus gives us when we die) 
 is the reason you need Jesus? 

Tricky Rick.

Why is he saying it like this?  Could it be because it is what he believes?
 


"There's no elevator to the top 4 effective ministry.You must climb every painful step to develop your character&competence"  Rick Warren 5-18-11


So, according to Rick, it's about you and what you do.
It's about you being great... (at the top)
                                                                                          
                                                                                            "You have to "climb every painful step 
to develop your character and competence."
  
No one else is going to do that for you.  So take the bull by the horns and get climbing!
That is, if you want to have an effective ministry and be at the top like he is
  This, I believe, is worldly wisdom, a bit Pharisaical too. It kinda misses the whole point of submitting to God.  It fails to acknowledgedoing what we do, not in our own strength and power, but in
His (God's) strength, His might, His power....the strength he gives us,
and not our own.

Yes, we must strive to develop character, which comes from submitting to doing what is right 
and saying no to temptation.  We do desire to be trust worthy, responsible people, 
but this all comes by submission to God and to his word. 


Most importantly, we must remember that God's word is always "effective."

ISAIAH 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: 
it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish
that which I please, and it shall prosper 
[in the thing] whereto I sent it.

A prosperous, and "effective ministry," a true effective ministry, is  one that preaches the word and believes God.  It is one that believes the wisdom and power of God to move any mountain...
and raise the dead.. 

Friday, April 8, 2011

Defender or Disciple; Christian, What Do You Believe?

A recent Warren "tweet" said,
"It's easier to fighter (I think he means "fight" or maybe he means "be a fighter") for truth than live it. It's why there are more Defenders than Disciples."
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Rick Warren, Twitter, April 2011

Are there really more "defenders" than "disciples"?

Are there actually these two categories of people, a defender, and a disciple? (oops, caps o the "D's", if you please)  Really, are people one or the other?

Do you, like Warren apparently, think that a disciple of Jesus would not be a defender of the faith, a defender of the truth of God?  HE makes it seem like you are either one, or the other....

Rick is attempting to separate people into these two distinctions, and it is an old strategy, called,  "divide and conquer." By making you pick a side, preseferably his, you have just mae his enemy smaller.... and made the smaller group... (in this case, those who might "defend" your enemy too.  So, which side of the Warren "coin" would you put yourself.. a defender or a disciple?

All that one has to do is pick one of the two options, and WHALLA!   You have either just sided with Rick and frown on those who would defend the truth rather than live it like you do... or you are about to be an enemy to Rick and those who think like him.  The important thing that happens though is that now, instead of one large group of believers who are both disciples and defenders of faith and truth, the group of potential defenders of truth is smaller, because he has convinced some, not all, to be silent about true faith in Christ, just like him.

According to Rick, defenders are the "bad" choice to want to be and disciples, are the "good," who "live out the gospel," (that is the "gospel, accroding to Rick and the purpose driven paradigm he touts)   He would have you believe that "Disciples," unlike those nasty "Defenders" who speak out against false doctrine like his own, live out their faith.

That, in case you didn't notice, is falttery... to those who believe what Rick has to say on matters of the practice and undersanding of the Christian faith, but take a look at what "living out the truth," looks like, in the scriptures.... and you will see it looks most like Jesus, who gave his life trusting what he believed and then too the apostles who preached not themselves, like Rick does, but Christ and him crucified to set the captives of sin, and death... finally.... and forever, free!

Jesus is the way and the TRUTH and the life!  (John 14:6)

He is the true God from true God.  As a man, the only begooten son of the Father, He was born into this body we all share called humanity.  He died, was buried and was raised from the dead....on the third day... according to the scriptures which he not only fullfilled but also taught... and this is the truth that we believe as Christians, disciples of JEsus as we follow him and believe in him with that mysterious thing called FAITH.  This is the truth that we stand upon and even perhaps "defend" as being true....  for it is worthy of our trust, if God, and if his sin Jesus Christ are true.  As for living out the truth...  the thief on the cross, crucified  beside JEsus, lived out the truth when he believed and so will we who will live, even though we die.  This is of course, because we do believe and are saved.

Rick certainly has a bad habit of whining about the church and here we see yet another example of him whining that people in the church defend their faith.  These are those who stand firmly grounded in the truth of God's word to us and do not accept Rick's ursupation of leadership which is what he would like to see. 

Those "defenders"... are an offense to him, impermeable to his manipulation and high sounding, lofty words, and so one of his devices is to turn people who like his flattery of being those who "live out the gospel" against those who would "defend."  He derogatorily calls them, "defenders;" and insinuates that those who would defend the faith do not "live" the truth.

Christian, what do you believe?

There are ungodly men who deny our Lord Jesus Christ, willing to take captive those who fall prey to them, unware.  What should we do, be silent?  Let them?


Jude 1:2-4
Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied. Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

There are those who would believe it is the law, not faith in JEsus Christ that saves....

Galatians 2:16-21
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.  I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.


Christian, what do you believe?

Monday, March 21, 2011

, "God Wants to Talk With You" says Rick Warren

If you are interested in this topic, please listen to the March 21 broadcast of Fighting for the Faith with Chris Roseborough and his Sermon Review, "God Wants to Talk With You" by Rick Warren.
On a scale of 1- 5 pretzels (to be awarded for extreme scripture twisting) Rick Warren maxes out at 5 pretzels! 

If you are a Christian, and you believe what Rick is telling you.... think again.  Read your Bible and listen to Jesus instead.

Thursday, March 10, 2011

Radical Talk About Radicalis Part 1

“There are two reasons that nonbelievers 
don’t know Jesus Christ.
One is, they’ve never met a Christian. 
The other is, they have.” ~Rick Warren
Spoken at the Radicalis Conference, Saddleback Church, CA
Source: Rick Warren Urges Pastors to Say Radical 'Yes' to God  
By Eryn Sun, Christian Post, Feb 21, 2011

This is some "radical" talk at the Radicalis Conference by Radical Rick Warren.  After all, this is "America's Pastor" speaking to Christians, these are the words of the same fact and figures man who reported enthusiastically,   
"Did you know that every day 60,000 new people 
come to believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior? 
By the end of today, thousands of new churches
will be started throughout the world, and that will 
happen tomorrow and the next day and the next." ~Rick Warren
The Church – the greatest force on Earth  By Rick Warren  Ministry Toolbox #237, 12-14-2006
 
After reading about (or hearing) these words spoken by Pastor Rick at Radicalis, you might ask yourself.... if Rick is just trying to be funny for his audience by saying such a thing.  You might ask yourself.... if he just trying to get a laugh, or maybe make a point.  After thinking about it, you might come to the conclusion that such a comment as this is not very funny, nor is it true, (to say the least.) It does tend to make a point though, and a rude one at that.  Such words are incomprehensible coming from a Christian pastor, speaking in regards to the church, the bride of Christ.

So, why is media-approved, Purpose Driven, man of the hour, Rick Warren, talking about "Christians" as if they are the worse kind of people you would ever meet?
  
 Surely, if you  are influenced by the words of Rick, he could have you thinking just like him in no time at all.... believing that "Christianity" is a major failure... dying, going nowhere, FAST! --needing to be changed by you and little ol' "Radical for Jesus," "change agent," "pastor" Rick.  Infected by his comments, ready to be a "radical" leader just like Rick (and Jesus,) in no time at all, you will be thinking "healthy" thoughts.  Then you will be climbing aboard his Saddleback PEACE train, helping him rid the world of the evil scourge of the impoverished of society and those "unhealthy pastors..."  (you know, " who have never been to seminary? ".... which he claims is... like disease, ) one of the five "largest problems" (evil giants) in the world!

Quaint... isn't it?  The man is a genius with his words.  He is quite certain, and will work real heard to convince anyone, that they would rather be a "healthy" Christian, than one of THOSE. 

The most amazing thing is to see how both fresh water and salt water pour forth in his words; his talk, as you can judge for yourself,  is quite incongruous.   Quite frankly, his Christian directed, hateful comments about Christians and Christianity, simply should not be coming from the mouth of someone who is supposed to be a shepherd of the flock of God.  His actions leave one to ascertain that there is something strangely brackish, going on.  So, according to Rick, are new people coming to faith in Jesus Christ everyday or is the church inept and totally defunct?  

Rick Warren cannot seem to make up his mind. Either that, or he says what he say, "on purpose;" after all he is a man of "intention" to the utmost degree.  He is,  you know, "Purpose Driven."  It is possible he is simply double minded... or maybe he has no idea what it is he is saying, when he makes statements like these... but it could also be that he selects his words carefully, craftily, on purpose,simply in order to manipulate a crowd, sway them to his own way of thinking.

According to the Orange County Register, (OCR0,  reporting on the Radicalis Conference,
Rick also told his audience, he wants to "draw out those who want to say ‘yes’ to God in a "radical" way.” (Apparently, making people feel special, better, more radical than most, "draws them out.") The OCR also reported Rick as saying, “We decided we want to be distinctly different. We want to be radical. We want to go back to the roots."   

What roots? Is Rick interested in being "fundamental?"  (To investigate further, read this.
Myth of the Mega Church, A transcript of the Faith Angle Conference, article on file at Pew Forum. )

Here is the Radicalis (a... back to the roots"" conference...) advertisement:



And here is the Radical Declaration:(<----read it in it's entirety here)
 
Parts of it say,
" I’m going God’s way. There is no turning back. I will live the rest of my life serving God’s purposes, with God’s people, on God’s planet, for God’s glory...."






"...I am a radical in the original sense of the word: rooted in Christ, rooted in love, and rooted in his Word."






If you believe everything Rick says, you might believe that being "rooted in Christ " "rooted in his (God's) Word" has something to do with the radicalis roots, but if this is the case. why do we read in his bestselling book, The Purpose Driven Life, on page 231:

The last thing many believers need today 
is to go to another Bible study. They already know far more
than they are putting into practice.”?

And, why does he tell people at his Radicalis conference, 


 "There are two reasons that nonbelievers
don’t know Jesus Christ. one is,
they’ve never met a Christian...   
The other is, they have.”?


 And what does he mean by being rooted in the "original sense of the word"..."RADICAL?"

Perhaps you's think that he meant he was getting back to the fundamentals of the faitn, except that Rick, despite his "declarations" and member covenants" is really not into creeds.  Besides, in an article by USA Today writer, Cathy Lynn Grossman titled, Saddleback founder Warren driven to expand his reach, Rick Warren himself denied he was a fundamentalist, saying, "What I am not is a fundamentalist. You become a fundamentalist when you stop listening. There are all kinds of fundamentalists," (he said this, listing Christian, Muslim, Jewish, atheist, even secular forms of "fundamentalism")  then said, "I don't happen to agree with any of them."

None of them?  Really Rick?  

Such comments leaves some people in your audience to wonder what fundamental root it is that you are talking about when you tell us that you want to go back to the roots as you promote "Radicalis."






























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What "roots" would this be?


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ROOTS?  How RADICAL?


RADICAL    RADICAL   RADICAL  RADICAL   


The words...  
the colors, the font....   
are strangely reminiscent of other well-known radicals.... but perhaps it is just a coincidence?













 Perhaps it is nothing but a fluke?

But if it is just a fluke, then why did Warren choose Lenin, Stalin and Mao as examples of great leadership on that Easter Sunday at Angels Stadium on April 17, 2005...asking his congregation for their radical commitment to his own leadesrhip in the global spiritual revolution he was spearheading. 


He even mentioned Hitler.

"If positive Christianity means love of one's neighbour, i.e. the tending of the sick, 
the clothing of the poor, the feeding of the hungry, 
the giving of drink to those who are thirsty,
then it is we who are the more positive Christians. 
For in these spheres the community of the people of
National Socialist Germany has accomplished a prodigious work. " 
~Adolf Hitler, speech to the "Old Guard" at Munich, 24 February 1939
He then had people in the audience hold up pre-made signs with letters against a red background, that read, "Whatever it takes."