On the Topic of Hell

Purpose Driven....

It's a different religion than Christianity.  

For example, the Bible is very clear" about hell.  It is something reserved for the Devil and his angels.  It is the very thing that Jesus came to save us human beings from. 

Regarding hell. here are some verses.  Read for yourself what the Bible says about hell.  It is:

Matthew 18:8, 25:41....everlasting fire — 

 Matthew 25:46...  everlasting punishment —

Jude 1:6...everlasting chains — 

Mark 3:29...eternal damnation — 

Hebrews 6:2...eternal judgment — 

 Jude 1:7...eternal fire —

Matthew 3:12...unquenchable fire — 

Mark 9:43, 44, 45, 46, 48...the fire that never shall be quenched — 

 Luke 3:17...fire unquenchable —

 2 Peter 2:17...mist of darkness is reserved for ever —

Jude 1:13....the blackness of darkness for ever —

Purpose Driven Rick Warren says that he believes Jesus spoke the truth about hell, but Rick won't represent Jesus' view and will not speak with authority given to him by Jesus on that matter; he will only let Jesus speak for himself.   This sounds so wise doesn't it? Yet, it really shows us who's side rick is really on.

 Rick, while saying he believes Jesus told the truth about hell, has his own definition of hell and his own belief about this matter....

"Let me tell you what my definition of hell would be. Hell would be if God were to show me all the blessings in life that I've missed because I was selfish or afraid. To me that would be hell. I missed that just because I was afraid, just because I was insecure.” ~ Rick Warren

Making a Difference With Your Life  40 Days of Peace Sermon,  Sept 17-18 2005

Do you think you deserve missing blessings on earth... hell,
or that anyone deserves "hell" for that matter
 for being either "afraid" or "insecure?"

Hell?
This is not biblical in the least.

Do you wonder why Pastor Rick makes up his own definition, rather than repeat the Bible? Do you wonder why it is that his personally belief... about this biblical concept, hell, is completely different from scripture?  It is because Rick is not honest. about what he believes about scripture.  

John Piper and Rick Warren speaking...Piper to Warren, "What is it? What is hell?" 

WARREN: "Well, I believe that literal hell. Jesus believed in a literal hell. Jesus talked about flames of fire. I believe in that. But to me, hell is eternal separation from God. It’s ultimate loneliness. "

Rick talks about Jesus and about what Jesus said, but why 
does Warren persist in giving his listeners his own ideas?
Does he really think that he knows better than Jesus?
Does hr think that he can improve on what Jesus said
by making hell more than the judgement of God for sin?

Didn't he just say that Jesus believed in a literal hell...

 and that Jesus himself talked about "flames of fire?"

Rick says, "I believe that literal hell," then he .

interrupts himself to interject what Jesus believed and talked about
then Rick affirms his own belief... and then he continues by saying,

"BUT TO ME, hell is eternal separation from God."

Does he mean that "hell" (to him) is something different?

Why is he compelled to assert his own belief?

 Rick continued:

"This myth that people are going to see each other in hell. That they’re going to party in hell, that’s just—  it is unloving to not tell the people the truth when you know it’s there.  And so we cannot wage on this. And I can say with a clear conscience that in all of the public interviews, every time I've been asked about hell, I shoot straight on it. Yes, it’s real. Yes, Jesus talked about it. People will go there."

Yes, Rick will tell you, Jesus believed it and taught on it....people are going here.

He "shoots straight" on that for Christians. But Rick circumvents that for himself.  

For the Christians who knows no better, for the unbelieving person too, 

Rick Warren also shoots straight in telling you his very own ideas 

which differ from the bible or some greater dimension or 

"value" to what the scriptures says, even to what Jesus taught.

Same interview... Rick Warren to John Piper....

"I have tried for 32 years to teach people to be self feeders, not just simply listen to the word of God.  I don't think that is enough."

He does not think that simply hearing the word of God is enough.  He says that people need to be "self feeders."

Rick has not read, or does not care what it says in Jeremiah 23...

"Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the Lord. Therefore thus saith the Lord God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the Lord. And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase. And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the Lord."

Who's idea was it it for pastors to feed the sheep?      God's

Who's idea was it for them to preach the word of God?     God's  

Who's idea is it for God's people to be self feeders?               Not God's

But the purpose driven soup thickens... as people at Saddleback church...

those "self feeders," have no idea what is really going on.

Destruction is coming.

"One of the verses that dominates Saddleback for 31 years is Hosea 4:6, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” However, knowledge is not enough." 

                                                                                                                                     ~Rick Warren

Was that destruction that came upon those people unjust?

What else did/do those people lack? 

Rick does not say, nor does he use the "verse" 

(as he calls the partial verse,) in it's entirety. 

Did their destruction come because of something more than a lack of "knowledge"?,

Is there something Hosea forgot to mention?

Knowledge, according to Rick, is  not only not enough.... but it's also on a different level than what he finds important, "perspective."  Rick improves upon the idea in Hosea:

"I actually believe that there are levels of scripture—I mean, levels of understanding the scripture. That we start with knowledge, which is knowing the what of scripture, but then we must move to perspective, which is knowing the why, okay. The Bible says about Moses, it says in Psalms, “The people of Israel knew the acts of God, but Moses knew the ways of God.” I differentiate between knowledge and perspective"  ~Rick Warren

Rick, once again, demonstrates that has his own way of looking at the Bible. 

He believes... but he believes what he wants to believe, not what it says.  

Rick then teaches his own ideas to people using the Bible, all the while he himself neglects to sit under the teaching of what Jesus says

 or of what the scripture teaches.

When it comes to hell as everlasting punishment , Yes. the bible teaches that... 

 Rick, however believes it is really eternal separation from God 

(and all your friends.) In hell,, there are no parties... and truth is,

without your friends you will  be lonely, 

so go head, buy Rick's books, (a.k.a. feed yourself.)  

Join one of his small group studies and make some friends.

Here is what the bible says, "my people perish for lack of knowledge,"

Being a master agent of change... 

He will tell you what the bible says, and change it.

Same interview....

Rick Warren is not believing upon Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior... he is simply "betting" that Jesus was not a liar.
Rick Warren :
"Everybody’s betting their life on something,” okay. Atheists are betting there is no God. Buddhists are betting on Buddha. I’m betting my life that Jesus Christ was not a liar, that Jesus Christ was telling the truth. Jesus said, “No one comes to the Father, but by me.” Now I didn’t say that, he said it. “I am the way”—not a good way, not the best way, not one of the ways, not a nice way—“I am the way, the truth and the life.” No one comes—I’m betting my life that he was telling the truth. Now see what I did? I took it off of me and making me the authority and, well, that’s your word against mine. I said, wait a minute. I’m just saying I’m putting my trust that Jesus, who split history into AD and BC, is not a liar. "  ~Rick Warren

Rick strategically (and deceptively) removed himself out from 

being under the authority of Jesus, likely for fear of persecution....

lets Jesus stand alone.... and suggests that other 

pastors use this very same technique.

Watch and listen or read, this interview yourself.

Maybe it's not Rick Warren, but John PIPER, that should be pictured here on the cover of this book.  More recommended reading @ www.inplainsite.org;Rick Warren New Age

God's wrath.... will fall.

Judgement is coming.

And you cannot simply wager a bet that Jesus knew what he was talking about or telling other people that Jesus was not a "liar."

You must believe he came, sent by God, to save you from the judgement that you... in your sin

so justly deserve.

God is merciful.  Jesus died and he was raised again from the dead....and he did so, just as God had described for us in the scriptures.

You cannot count upon your good deed that you have done to save the world to save you. You cannot even expect all your attempts to be just like the most high is to save you in the end.

You can learn from Saddleback pastors how to grow into being like Jesus, or  learn to preach transformation, just "like Jesus," (Since "practically every communicator understands and  uses this principle except pastors! says, Rick Warren) at "Christianity .com"

You can learn to

lead like Jesus,

or over a persiod of time, study the life of JEsus  (in books or movies from Rick Warren) where you  learn how to  apply the the lessons from events in the life of Jesus  to your own and "change the world"....but this won't save you.... even if you find purpose, one of your very own.

The Christian message... the gospel of Jesus Christ, is not about YOU finding the Jesus in you,

 but  it is about YOU believing on the one whom God sent. It is about you and confessing your faith in Him who is the  Lamb of God who died in place of you.

Your sins will be forgiven.  you will be saved.  And you can rest assured that when all is said and done, and you come to the end of your life ...dearly beloved of God, your name will be found written inthe Lamb's Book of Life.... you would be found  "in Him."

"Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 

And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, 

which is of the law,  but that which is through the faith of Christ, 

the righteousness which is of God by faith"

Philippians 3:8,9

What Rick Warren Thinks of Christians

"Most Christians today couldn't even define "protestant' much less name one."                                                                                ~Rick Warren tweet, 10/10/12

"Most Christians clam up and shut up because they're afraid to even stand up." ~Rick Warren,                                                                     

Rick Warren Emboldens Christians, Says Not

 to Apologize for Voting in Line With the Bible

 christainpost.com

"The greatest need in the world today is to release the latent energy bottled up in believers who are doing nothing for the kingdom of God."                                                      ~Rick Warren

Rick Warren: The Church Must Take Action. MinistryToday article, ministrytodaymag.com

"Okay. I mean I went to a Bible university, and I went to two seminaries, earned a Doctorate, how did I miss 2,000 verses in the Bible on the poor....Well, evidently, I just had on cultural blinders. And this is true with everybody, we always see what we want to see. We see what we've been taught to see. And, when I began to look at what Jesus did, I began to think, there's an entire missing part of my ministry. And so the answers to the prayers actually became the, steps of action. And that's how we came up with the PEACE Plan."

~Rick Warren

Interview with Alison Rostankowski, 2006

Finding Christians, to be uneducated, inept, and doing nothing for "the kingdom of God," Rick has decided to convince Christians to follow him so they can do something productive. Rick who is never unknowledgable about anything related to faith, never slack in knowing everything about church, even made public statements that he was ignorant of what the Bible said.  Now he is building bridges to connect people "of faith"

What faith?

Your faith ...and forget the first and greatest commandment of loving /god with allyour heart and mind.  All you need is your faith, any faith that "causes you to love others."

 (Not the faith you have in Jesus, the Savior of the world.... (John 3:16)  not the gospel of Jesus Christ, that of having your sins forgiven by God and receiving the gift of eternal life.)

Rick Warren's grandiose idea is P.E.A.C.E. (a program he apparently invented all by himself.  See his bio at www,danielplan.com.) 

This P.E.A.C.E. Plan, does not offer peace with God through faith in Jesus Christ.... but the peace of the world here on Earth and it is quite similar to the PEACE offered by the United Nations.

To Rick, the hope of the world is not Jesus, It's the world-wide "Church.".  To facilitate this peace he has set about the work of building "bridges."  

"I am looking to build bridges with the Orthodox Church, looking to build bridges with the Catholic Church, with the Anglican church, and say 'What can we do together that we have been unable to do by ourselves?' "

Read more: http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/05316/605324.stm#ixzz2unRny52Z

In A Conversation with Rick Warren at Ancient Faith Radio October 11, 2013 Rick spoke with Fr. John Parker, the chair of the Department of Evangelization of the Orthodox Church in America, about Orthodoxy, Evangelicals, evangelism, and ....himself.


"I just got back from Jordan, where I met with 80 Orthodox patriarchs and priests and bishops from Eastern Europe, Russia, and the Middle East. It was primarily Arab-speaking leaders, Armenian were there, though, Russian were there, but it was primarily Egypt and Syria and Palestine, and the Patriarch of Jerusalem was there. It was an amazing time. I’ve actually invited the Patriarch of Russia, Patriarch Kyrill, and the Patriarch of Jerusalem to come to Saddleback before Christmas. I’ve asked them to come and speak to my staff. I haven’t received an answer yet back, but I’ve invited them both to come."                                             ~Rick Warren

" I don’t call myself a Protestant, because I’m not protesting anything; I have more in common with an Orthodox who believes in the authority of Scripture than I do with a liberal Baptist or a liberal Methodist or Presbyterian who denies the authority of Scripture, and things like that. "     ~Rick Warren



"Today, a lot of churches are what I call “tumbleweed” churches. They’re not rooted in the fact that God has been at work in the Church for 2,000 years."   ~Rick Warren

"The number one thing Evangelicals need to learn from Orthodox is spiritual formation. I would say they can help us on spiritual formation, and we can help them on evangelism. I said, “If you’ll teach me about spiritual formation, I’ll teach you everything I know about reaching contemporary Americans."

~Rick Warren

"Saddleback Church speaks 69 languages.... 69 different languages. So we call ourselves an “all-nation congregation,” and we really intentionally reach out to different cultures. That has taught me about: “What’s the best way to say this?” But the process that we use for disciple-making at Saddleback, which is known to the world as “purpose-driven,” there’s absolutely nothing new about “purpose-driven” that hasn’t been done for 2,000 years in historic Christianity. We simply call them catechisms."                                              ~Rick Warren

Fr. John: "Yes, indeed. Tell me: when we were speaking a few moments ago, before we started to record this, you said that the Evangelicals are lacking the mystery."
Pastor Warren: "I do."
Fr. John: "Say a little bit about your thoughts on that."
Pastor Warren: "I was brought up in a Baptist background, which, in a Baptist background, in worship, it’s all about the sermon. It’s not about communion, the Lord’s table. It’s not about the sacraments. It’s about the word."    

"I believe that the Eastern Orthodox Church particularly, and also Catholics, could see a revival in America, because the new generation is craving more mystery. I see this in the next generation. "                                                                                             ~Rick Warren

   

Now this is weird.... Rick would have people "craving more mystery."

Rick apparently had not only overlooked the bible verse about helping the poor, but has not read Ephesians 3; .about how God made known the mystery in the person of Jesus Christ.

"For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)  Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel."  Ephesians 3:1-5

Promoting the notion of "mystery," and a "Protestant" return to it, Rick Warren says, 

"But there’s great mystery in the Church. There’s mystery in the elements of communion. There’s mystery in baptism. There’s mystery in the Gospel, and the Bible talks about this. I also think that Protestants, when they were reacting to what may have been some true excesses of the Catholic Church in the 1500's, went to the extreme and got rid of a lot of helpful worship aids: icons and pictures and symbols."                                                                                   ~ Rick Warren

Oddly, this and other strange things, are coming from someone who is supposed to be a Protestant, Southern Baptist minister.  

Rick obviously thinks Christians are not very bright people.  He snookers everyone he possibly can.  He believes that the people who gave their lives to give the world the gospel and the scriptures in written form, are inept, spineless, foolishly clinging to the wrong "unhealthy" foundation.   According to Rick, Protestants need to turn back to the notion of "mystery" like other forms of the Christian religions and all Christians need to do more than they are doing.

Of course they all should stop their useless Bible studies.. and listen to him pontificate about how to save the world, and buy his books where they can learn to better serve the world.  Someone who teaches pastors, not the importance of preaching the word of God, but rick's own sermons and campaign projects and stresses the importance of meeting people's "needs"

"The last thing many believers need is to go to another Bible study. They already know far more than they are putting into practice. What they need are serving experiences in which they can exercise their spiritual muscles." ~Rick Warren

We Are Commanded to Serve God By Rick Warren 8/19 2009

Martha didn't approve of Mary sitting at the feet of Jesus instead of serving either, but Jesus told her, Mary had chosen the better thing.

Laying Down the Law...

"The membership requirements at Saddleback are so 

high most American church members could not join us." 

                                                                                                                  `Rick Warren, Modern Reformation Magazine Interview, 2004


"As Christian leaders, we need to be above reproach... That’s why I established these Saddleback staff standards for maintaining moral integrity:

- Thou shalt not go to lunch alone with the opposite sex.
- Thou shalt not have the opposite sex pick you up 
                            or drive you places when it is just the two of you.
- Thou shalt not kiss any attender of the opposite sex 
                             or show affection that could be questioned.
- Thou shalt not visit the opposite sex alone at home.
- Thou shalt not counsel the opposite sex alone at the office, 
                          and thou shalt not counsel the opposite sex more than once 
                          without that person’s mate. Refer them.
- Thou shalt not discuss detailed sexual problems with the opposite sex in    
                           counseling.  Refer them.
- Thou shalt not discuss your marriage problems with an attender of the opposite             
                           sex.
- Thou shalt be careful in answering emails, instant messages, chatrooms, cards, or 
                           letters from the opposite sex.
- Thou shalt make your secretary your protective ally.
- Thou shalt pray for the integrity of other staff members." - Rick Warren

 The Saddleback Staff Standards of Moral Integrity by Rick Warren, 2003, pastors.com

Rick prefaced these commandments "standards" that he established for staff with, 

" I have told my staff that if any of them even flirt with temptation, I will come after them with a baseball bat, and I've told them to do the same with me. - Rick Warren

 The Saddleback Staff Standards of Moral Integrity by Rick Warren, 2003, pastors.com

Galatians 2:16- Galatians 3:3 KJV

" Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, 

but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, 

that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. 

But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, 

we ourselves also are found sinners, 

is therefore Christ the minister of sin? 

God forbid. 

For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 

For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, 

but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh 

I live by the faith of the Son of God, 

who loved me, and gave himself for me.

 I do not frustrate the grace of God:

for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, t

hat ye should not obey the truth, 

before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth,

crucified among you? 

 This only would I learn of you, 

Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Are ye so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

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"Syncretism" ala Rick...

"My life and ministry are built on the truth that Jesus is the only way, and our inerrant Bible is our only true authority." -Rick Warren

Rick Warren Builds Bridge to the Muslims by Jim Hinch, Orange County Register Life, Feburary 23, 2012, Updated March  12, 2012

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Rick Warren, with the republication of his book, the Purpose Driven Life, is making public appearances on television.  This week, while Rick was being interviewed by CNN correspondent Piers Morgan, Morgan took the opportunity to question Rick if homosexuality is "a sin" or not.  Pastor Rick replied, "It’s not a sin to love somebody,” and then added, “It might be a sin to have sex with them.”

CNN News  Interview with Peirs Morgan, CNN Belief Blog, 11/29/2012

"Might be a sin?" 

He apparently knows what is not a sin, (so that what is not a sin can be embraced) but when it comes to what sin IS.. Rick is clueless, or at least willingly ambiguous.  This is surprising for someone who claims to read so much,  know and teach so much to so many people and who claims to divulge so many "secrets" if you listen to his wise words.  Rick is supposedly also "a pastor" to pastors, "America's Pastor" some would say.  Yes, it is quite surprising that he would be unable to answer Mr. Morgan's very important question with a simply yes or no.  Instead Rick said, "It might be."

Apparently things are not light and dark, black and white.... up and down or even yes and no.  Gray. twilight thinking and and a "might-be" is all you get.  If you didn't know the truth on the matter, before you asked Pastor Rick, you still don't know.  

Rick then went on  in his conversation with Morgan to say how he and Kay Warren have homosexual friends... and how much time and money and effort they have personally given to combats and research a cure for AIDS, (a terrible and deadly blood disease that is well-known as a communicable problem within the homosexual community.)   Rick and Kay have donated millions of dollars,  he says.

It's great of Rick to have care and compassion for these hurting people, and it is great to use your wealth to make friends.  It's actually very nice that there is a big party going on here.... However, Rick's friends are intoxicated with something that is going to harm them -  sin and truth is, friends don't let friends drive when they are intoxicated. 

By being ambiguous with this answer, Pastor Rick has just let all his intoxicated friends  walk out the door with keys in their hands aiming to drive a treacherous road.  With the entire world listening and watching, looking for an answer from the pastor at the  microphone, he told them all, via CNN, that they might make it... but they might not, he just didn't know, when he told them that homosexuality "might be a sin."  He simply let their troubled souls get in their cars and drive off into the twilight where light and dark, day and night, right and wrong, mingle.

Isaiah 9:2

The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

2 Corinthians 6:14 

 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?

John 11:9

Jesus answered, "Are there not twelve hours in the day? 

If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, 

because he seeth the light of this world."

This is syncretism.

Twilight is temporary.  Soon twilight will be changed to either night or day and these "friends" of Rick will be left believing there is no right or wrong in this matter.  No "light" was shed on the subject.

It was not very long ago that any pastor who believed the Bible would tell you plainly what human behaviors were sinful... based on what the scriptures claimed.  They would tell you plainly the good news of Jesus Christ's resurrection from death and invite you to repent from sin and make a proclamation of faith in Him who made the way for our forgiveness and open the way to life with God in heaven when the day comes that you die.  There's Rick on TV, and he is neither hot not cold about important issues...like Biblical authority and what the Bible says, and he makes no bones about it.... he is an "evangelical" pastor.

Heather Clark, a reporter for the Christian News Network quoted Rick making this assertion that day, 
“I make no bones about it. I’m an evangelical pastor, so my source of authority is, 'What does the Bible say about it?'...However, people will have other sources of authority.....Or, different readings of the Bible...that is very true.”  -Rick Warren

Rick Warren Uncertain if Homosexual Behavior is Sinful, Says ‘Gays’ Go to Heaven by Heather Clark Christian News Network, 11/29/2011

People have other sources of authority than the Bible and that is just fine?

This is more syncretism.

(The above link takes you to a teaching by a man, Santos Bonacci, who believes he understands all religions... and that he can  "scientifically" prove, or demonstrate how good and evil exist together and that every religion needs to agree to this notion of religious syncretism.  Be warned... He believes you pray to yourself when you pray to your "god" (universal mind) regardless the religion "god" you pray to.  He is also unaware the the truth of God  in Jesus Christ, who he claims is a "legend," and no more of a real man that Hercules, that is right before his eyes and he seeks to bring "syncretism" to the world.)

Apparently, to Rick, the Bible is only one of many (legitimate?) sources of "authority" for people to look to for answers.   (Note: The Holy Bible that is the supposed authority for Rick, is too vague about homosexuality for him to give a definitive answer on that subject.)   


Rick believes that no matter your faith .. no matter your authority.. bible or not, all  "people of faith" have to unite as one: 

"I can take you to ten million villages around the world that the only thing in it is a church. And we are in more locations than the United Nations.  We speak more languages than the United Nations.  We are a thousand more people groups than the United Nations.  You see, there are 600 million Buddhists in the world.  There are 800 million Hindus in the world.  There are a billion Muslims in the world. But there are 2.3 billion Christians in the world.  If you take people of faith out of the equation you have ruled out five-sixths of the world.  So we have to mobilize this, this, these faith groups to do—to work together on these issues that have been unsolvable.  And the church has, of course, the greatest distribution."-Rick Warren

Rick Warren personally addressing "Youtubbers"  a in You Tube Video:“Rick Warren Answers the DAVOS Question” posted January 25, 2008

Note how the church has encompassed the earth.  The church is everywhere....
Just as God has said.

"I can take you to ten million villages around the world that the only thing in it is a church." 

Rick can do this?  Wow.  He, personally, has access to all the churches in the world?

Well he has sort of usurped that position...

but they do not belong to Rick, even if he says, "WE."

"And we are in more locations than the United Nations. We speak more languages than the United Nations. We are a thousand more people groups than the United Nations."

That was to puff up your "ego" church. 

To make you feel big and strong.

This is too:

"You see, there are 600 million Buddhists in the world."
"There are 800 million Hindus in the world." 
There are a billion Muslims in the world. "
"But there are 2.3 billion Christians in the world.  If you take people of faith out of the equation you have ruled out five-sixths of the world." (The Christians are, you see, " winning.")

People of faith?  He just lumped them all together like they are all the same.  

They are not all the same.  

They do not all walk in the light...

John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

This abandonment of Christian Doctrine
in order to walk in darkness and half-light
instead of light 
is: 
 Syncretism.

40 bible verses about syncretism: here.

"So we..." (Perhaps you noticed, Rick has just put himself in charge of ALL churches everywhere.)"... have to mobilize this, this, these faith groups (which ones?)  to do—to work together (Sync?) on these issues that have been unsolvable.  (no solution?... Really?  What about the cross, what about Jesus...to these people in other religions who are working their way to God instead of coming to Him by faith?  What about love, compassion, truth, "light" ...things like that?)
and the church has, of course, the greatest distribution."-Rick Warren

Of course the church has the greatest distribution...

those apostles did what the Lord commanded.  

They preached the good news to the ends of the world... 

to every tongue and tribe and nation, just like he said.

and they didn't stammer, or fumble for words when 

asked if homosexual behavior is a sin.

No.  They were humble...

and quite separate in their thinking

 from the thinking of the rest of the world.

they believed Jesus was the only way...

the door.

And they warned us about knowing the scriptures and of 

being humble.

Rick says the church is great.... really great... speaks more languages, has more people groups that the United Nations..  He asserts that there are more Christians in the world than there are people of other religions.    He says too that the church, consisting of people working together.... people of all faiths harnessed under the direction of Rick Warren will solve the worlds problems when the church (finally) does what it is suppose to do and become useful for the distribution of goods and services and united with all people of faith peacabley to save humanity from the five evils in the world.

Have you read about Rick Warren's PEACE plan?

(His plan to save the world?)

  It's a plan to get all faiths united and working together, and he believes that is the only thing to slay these five evil giants that he is attempting to rid humanity of, and this is to bring peace and "save the world."  To combat the evils of:

1) "spiritual lostness"  (changed from the original, to "spiritual emptiness")
2) "ungodly leaders" (changed to "Self-serving leadership)
And he defined ungodly leaders in the world for us to by saying, ""Not only have these leaders not gone to seminary or Bible school, they haven’t even gone to high school or primary school. They have no training whatsoever -- and yet they lead the church. This must be remedied." ~  Rick Warren  November, 2003, (http://www.saddlebackfamily.com/peace/Services/110203_high.asx) 
3) poverty
4) disease
5) illiteracy



Rick wants to :

Plant churches that promote reconciliation  (See Saddleback resources)  

Equip servant leaders  (with his sanctioned materials for leadership)

Assist the poor  

Care for the sick

Educate the next generation

Where is the Prince of Peace in all of this?  He is suspiciously missing.  "Spiritual lostness" fell off of the map.  Apparently people just have unfulfilled lives without purpose... or maybe without prayer or without worship... BUT not a savior, the ONLY ONE, who will save them from sin.

Rick, he's really not sure if homosexual activity... men with men, women with women constitutes "sin" even though he quotes the many versions and paraphrases of the Bible that he does.  Besides, according to Rick, gay relationships are "legal," it just "not a big issue" to him. 

 "I have biblical views regarding what marriage is about. I am not in favor of redefining marriage, I'm not. It's not illegal to have a gay relationship, so it's not a big issue to me." -Rick Warren

                                   Christian Post article,  Rick Warren on Gay Marriage: 'Tolerance Does Not Mean Approval' by Stoyan Zaimoa  November 27, 2012

And Rick is definitive as to what will be the salvation of the world.... and it's YOU.  The way to end death and suffering, the way to "kill those five evil giants" that plague our world, is his PEACE plan his "holistic strategy....  "a "three legged stool" between business  governments and churches... or rather people of faith."

"The global P.E.A.C.E. coalition is a network of networks that enables strategic partnering among businesses, governments and churches...." - Rick Warren

Forward to a book of essays on "enterprise solutions to poverty" titled,  In The River They Swim,

 a book that he will "recommend" as a textbook to over 400,000 church in his "network."  

".....I stood up at the end and I said, let me just take five minutes to share with you why - going back to these three legs of the stool - government will never get it done on its own. Business will never get it done on its own. Churches and synagogues and mosques and temples and everything, we have to work together. We have to team tackle this." -Rick Warren

Pew Forum Event Transcript, The Future of Evangelicals: A Conversation with Pastor Rick Warren, November 13, 2009

This is syncretism.  

John 14:27

"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled,  neither let it be afraid."-Jesus