"Most Christians clam up and shut up because they're afraid to even stand up." ~Rick Warren,
Rick Warren Emboldens Christians, Says Not
to Apologize for Voting in Line With the Bible
"The greatest need in the world today is to release the latent energy bottled up in believers who are doing nothing for the kingdom of God." ~Rick Warren
Rick Warren: The Church Must Take Action. MinistryToday article, ministrytodaymag.com
"Okay. I mean I went to a Bible university, and I went to two seminaries, earned a Doctorate, how did I miss 2,000 verses in the Bible on the poor....Well, evidently, I just had on cultural blinders. And this is true with everybody, we always see what we want to see. We see what we've been taught to see. And, when I began to look at what Jesus did, I began to think, there's an entire missing part of my ministry. And so the answers to the prayers actually became the, steps of action. And that's how we came up with the PEACE Plan."
~Rick Warren
Finding Christians, to be uneducated, inept, and doing nothing for "the kingdom of God," Rick has decided to convince Christians to follow him so they can do something productive. Rick who is never unknowledgable about anything related to faith, never slack in knowing everything about church, even made public statements that he was ignorant of what the Bible said. Now he is building bridges to connect people "of faith"
What faith?
Your faith ...and forget the first and greatest commandment of loving /god with allyour heart and mind. All you need is your faith, any faith that "causes you to love others."
(Not the faith you have in Jesus, the Savior of the world.... (John 3:16) not the gospel of Jesus Christ, that of having your sins forgiven by God and receiving the gift of eternal life.)
Rick Warren's grandiose idea is P.E.A.C.E. (a program he apparently invented all by himself. See his bio at www,danielplan.com.)
This P.E.A.C.E. Plan, does not offer peace with God through faith in Jesus Christ.... but the peace of the world here on Earth and it is quite similar to the PEACE offered by the United Nations.
To Rick, the hope of the world is not Jesus, It's the world-wide "Church.". To facilitate this peace he has set about the work of building "bridges."
"I am looking to build bridges with the Orthodox Church, looking to build bridges with the Catholic Church, with the Anglican church, and say 'What can we do together that we have been unable to do by ourselves?' "
In A Conversation with Rick Warren at Ancient Faith Radio October 11, 2013 Rick spoke with Fr. John Parker, the chair of the Department of Evangelization of the Orthodox Church in America, about Orthodoxy, Evangelicals, evangelism, and ....himself.
"I just got back from Jordan, where I met with 80 Orthodox patriarchs and priests and bishops from Eastern Europe, Russia, and the Middle East. It was primarily Arab-speaking leaders, Armenian were there, though, Russian were there, but it was primarily Egypt and Syria and Palestine, and the Patriarch of Jerusalem was there. It was an amazing time. I’ve actually invited the Patriarch of Russia, Patriarch Kyrill, and the Patriarch of Jerusalem to come to Saddleback before Christmas. I’ve asked them to come and speak to my staff. I haven’t received an answer yet back, but I’ve invited them both to come." ~Rick Warren
"I just got back from Jordan, where I met with 80 Orthodox patriarchs and priests and bishops from Eastern Europe, Russia, and the Middle East. It was primarily Arab-speaking leaders, Armenian were there, though, Russian were there, but it was primarily Egypt and Syria and Palestine, and the Patriarch of Jerusalem was there. It was an amazing time. I’ve actually invited the Patriarch of Russia, Patriarch Kyrill, and the Patriarch of Jerusalem to come to Saddleback before Christmas. I’ve asked them to come and speak to my staff. I haven’t received an answer yet back, but I’ve invited them both to come." ~Rick Warren
" I don’t call myself a Protestant, because I’m not protesting anything; I have more in common with an Orthodox who believes in the authority of Scripture than I do with a liberal Baptist or a liberal Methodist or Presbyterian who denies the authority of Scripture, and things like that. " ~Rick Warren
"Today, a lot of churches are what I call “tumbleweed” churches. They’re not rooted in the fact that God has been at work in the Church for 2,000 years." ~Rick Warren
"Today, a lot of churches are what I call “tumbleweed” churches. They’re not rooted in the fact that God has been at work in the Church for 2,000 years." ~Rick Warren
"The number one thing Evangelicals need to learn from Orthodox is spiritual formation. I would say they can help us on spiritual formation, and we can help them on evangelism. I said, “If you’ll teach me about spiritual formation, I’ll teach you everything I know about reaching contemporary Americans."
~Rick Warren
"Saddleback Church speaks 69 languages.... 69 different languages. So we call ourselves an “all-nation congregation,” and we really intentionally reach out to different cultures. That has taught me about: “What’s the best way to say this?” But the process that we use for disciple-making at Saddleback, which is known to the world as “purpose-driven,” there’s absolutely nothing new about “purpose-driven” that hasn’t been done for 2,000 years in historic Christianity. We simply call them catechisms." ~Rick Warren
Fr. John: "Yes, indeed. Tell me: when we were speaking a few moments ago, before we started to record this, you said that the Evangelicals are lacking the mystery."
Pastor Warren: "I do."
Fr. John: "Say a little bit about your thoughts on that."
Pastor Warren: "I was brought up in a Baptist background, which, in a Baptist background, in worship, it’s all about the sermon. It’s not about communion, the Lord’s table. It’s not about the sacraments. It’s about the word."
"I believe that the Eastern Orthodox Church particularly, and also Catholics, could see a revival in America, because the new generation is craving more mystery. I see this in the next generation. " ~Rick Warren
Now this is weird.... Rick would have people "craving more mystery."
Rick apparently had not only overlooked the bible verse about helping the poor, but has not read Ephesians 3; .about how God made known the mystery in the person of Jesus Christ.
"For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel." Ephesians 3:1-5
Promoting the notion of "mystery," and a "Protestant" return to it, Rick Warren says,
"But there’s great mystery in the Church. There’s mystery in the elements of communion. There’s mystery in baptism. There’s mystery in the Gospel, and the Bible talks about this. I also think that Protestants, when they were reacting to what may have been some true excesses of the Catholic Church in the 1500's, went to the extreme and got rid of a lot of helpful worship aids: icons and pictures and symbols." ~ Rick Warren
Oddly, this and other strange things, are coming from someone who is supposed to be a Protestant, Southern Baptist minister.
Rick obviously thinks Christians are not very bright people. He snookers everyone he possibly can. He believes that the people who gave their lives to give the world the gospel and the scriptures in written form, are inept, spineless, foolishly clinging to the wrong "unhealthy" foundation. According to Rick, Protestants need to turn back to the notion of "mystery" like other forms of the Christian religions and all Christians need to do more than they are doing.
Of course they all should stop their useless Bible studies.. and listen to him pontificate about how to save the world, and buy his books where they can learn to better serve the world. Someone who teaches pastors, not the importance of preaching the word of God, but rick's own sermons and campaign projects and stresses the importance of meeting people's "needs"
We Are Commanded to Serve God By Rick Warren 8/19 2009
Martha didn't approve of Mary sitting at the feet of Jesus instead of serving either, but Jesus told her, Mary had chosen the better thing.
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