In March, 2014, Warren will team up with the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange, (represented by Bishop Kevin Vann,) and the National Alliance on Mental Illness to "raise awareness and remove the misunderstandings against mental illnesses within the faith community." Interestingly enough, the National Alliance in Mental Health not onlysays that ut defines the roles and responsibilities of NAMI State Organizations and NAMI Affiliates,like their "Faith Net" established for "outreach to all religious organizations." (Faithnet claims this is successful for them because "all the major religions have the basic tenets of giving care and showing compassion to those in need." ) A recent ABC NEWS report said that "the Gathering on Mental Health and the Church grew out of private conversations Warren had with the local Catholic bishop, Bishop Kevin Vann, after his son's death."
What we are seeing here, looks a lot like the "miracle of unity" as declared recently by Pope Francis a few days ago via video at a Kenneth Copeland Conference. The Pope's message was followed by Archbishop Tony Palmer citing the 1999 Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification that he said was posted on the Vatican Website, it was one of their documents. Palmer said that this document brought and ed to the "protest" of the Protestant Reformation. He told the crowd, “Brothers and sisters, Luther’s protest is over Is yours? " Do not be surprised that the next "miracle of unity" just might unite faiths on this issue of mental illness.
As for the gathering, take a look at the line of speakers for this one day event....
Kevin Vann
Steve Pitman
Amy Simpson
Churck Hannaford
Eric Johnson
Matthew Stanford
Says Warren,
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“Our goal is, as we say, we crack the door open and then churches go, ‘OK. If the diocese is doing this, if Saddleback’s doing this, we can do this,’” Warren said. “And we’d love to see a movement started where people actually begin to say, ‘We need to see this element added to our local ministry.'" ~Rick Warren
Rick Warren Calls Church to Mental Health Ministry by Sophia Lee 2/25/14
One alarming aspect of this is that churches already do care about people with mental illness. Another is that mental illness is not always easy to identify and treat... it can be easily misdiagnosed and once diagnosed, treating it is not always so simple.... Ask Rick; He knows. Then on top of this, when church does deal with mental illness they still get the response from people like the Friendly Atheist, that wonders, "Why,"( if Jesus really does make a difference and heals our huts,) "doesn't Jesus heal mental disease?" They point out that while Rick and family profess to believe Jesus heals, Jesus did not heal Pastor Warren's son of his depression which he struggled with. his dad says, all of his life.
Alarming too... is that Rick, the self proclaimed expert on everything, who frequently misrepresents what the bible says and disregards sound doctrine, also thinks that he in in charge of everything "health."
Rick Warren has grown himself a big following and so he thinks he know everything about preaching and growing a church... He has made himself a pastor to pastors, and believes he knows everything about how to build it, and how to balance it perfectly all of the time to keep it "healthy.". He thinks he knows all about physical health too...(even though he not in great physical condition himself.).He has also recently enlisted people he considers to be experts to teach those churches that line up with him, to find physical health too, and now, he is putting himself up in front as knowing a lot about mental health and bringing in more "experts" in the area of mental health..
Pastors of churches have willingly put themselves under Rick Warren's mentoring, given his their congregations ears to listen to the advice of doctors that practice meditation for relaxation and teach necromancy on TV. Now he is inviting them to subject themselves and members of heir congregations to the scrutiny of a National Alliance of Mental Illness....He is asking them to subject themselves to answer to the Alliance who will, according to their website, "develop and provide materials to be used in congregations of a wide variety of faith traditions,"
This is another miracle of unity... (n the making.)
Meanwhile, some people would believe that major figures and personalities in the Bible may have been mentally ill........
Rick Warren Calls Church to Mental Health Ministry by Sophia Lee 2/25/14
One alarming aspect of this is that churches already do care about people with mental illness. Another is that mental illness is not always easy to identify and treat... it can be easily misdiagnosed and once diagnosed, treating it is not always so simple.... Ask Rick; He knows. Then on top of this, when church does deal with mental illness they still get the response from people like the Friendly Atheist, that wonders, "Why,"( if Jesus really does make a difference and heals our huts,) "doesn't Jesus heal mental disease?" They point out that while Rick and family profess to believe Jesus heals, Jesus did not heal Pastor Warren's son of his depression which he struggled with. his dad says, all of his life.
Alarming too... is that Rick, the self proclaimed expert on everything, who frequently misrepresents what the bible says and disregards sound doctrine, also thinks that he in in charge of everything "health."
Rick Warren has grown himself a big following and so he thinks he know everything about preaching and growing a church... He has made himself a pastor to pastors, and believes he knows everything about how to build it, and how to balance it perfectly all of the time to keep it "healthy.". He thinks he knows all about physical health too...(even though he not in great physical condition himself.).He has also recently enlisted people he considers to be experts to teach those churches that line up with him, to find physical health too, and now, he is putting himself up in front as knowing a lot about mental health and bringing in more "experts" in the area of mental health..
Pastors of churches have willingly put themselves under Rick Warren's mentoring, given his their congregations ears to listen to the advice of doctors that practice meditation for relaxation and teach necromancy on TV. Now he is inviting them to subject themselves and members of heir congregations to the scrutiny of a National Alliance of Mental Illness....He is asking them to subject themselves to answer to the Alliance who will, according to their website, "develop and provide materials to be used in congregations of a wide variety of faith traditions,"
This is another miracle of unity... (n the making.)
Meanwhile, some people would believe that major figures and personalities in the Bible may have been mentally ill........
See:
So, what if you do not want to go this Mental Health route with Rick and friends? What if you are overweight and go to church or if your church id not "Prupose Driven," and has not done "Forty Days of Love"? What if yu congregation is ot as big as a college campus? Would this mean you are "unhealthy?
What if you didn't get o board with Popes and bishops because you read more than one page at the Vatican site, and what if you believe faith in Jesus, *not good works and belonging to a faith community ) is the ONLY way to God.? What if you take the bible seriously.... adhere to biblical doctrines... like the reality of hell, and you believe the promises of God? Would this,cause you to be labeled unhealthy....
Or for that matter, "mentally ill"?
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Other Topic Related Articles That Might Be Of Interest To You:
The friendly Athiest, Rick Warren: "We are all mentally ill."
Roman Catholic Article about the Popes Message to Kenneth Copeland
It all about healthy and safety...
"Matthew S. Stanford is professor of psychology and neuroscience at Baylor University"
Jesus was ill?
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