Tuesday, January 1, 2013

Foreworded, Endorsed and Co-Authored by Rick Warren

A foreword to a book is written by someone other than the author in order the help sell the book.   It is usually written by a higher profile, more well-known individual than the author in order to lend their credibility to the to the work done by the author.  Sometimes as author of a book, financial compensation is paid to someone for a foreword and other times they do it for free...perhaps simply as a favor for a friend, or to gain more notoriety on the newly published work.   One key factor for having a forward is that people will sometimes buy a book merely based upon it being endorsed by someone they already know.  This post will look at some of the individuals and their work that "Pastor" Rick Warren endorses for you and I, and for the American Church to read via the writing of a foreword.

Those there has been a previous post on the subject... here, but this is a more extensive, yet simple list with links to aid you in your research regarding the materials that Rick intentionally chooses to promote to his readership.

Transitioning by Dan Sutherland
Foreword by Rick Warren
The book's description tells us, "Southerland maps out an eight-step strategy for moving from being a traditional, ministry-driven church to a purpose-driven church."

In the foreword, Rick Warren, encourages pastors to buy a copy of  the book, one for each of the staff and then study it together.  He even suggests that together they  "create a list of actions steps they intend to take" (Page 10) to move their church from traditional to purpose driven. It makes sense the Rick Warren puts his name  on this book.... it is to his purpose driven advantage.  The point is to stop doing  what you are doing as a church, implement the things Southerland suggests and follow Rick's leading... purchase the programs he creates and sells... and read the books he endorses.


You can read reviews of Dan Sutherland's book and Rick Warren, at inplainsite.org and read what readers have to say about this book at Amazon.

Beyond Megachurch Myths by Scott Thumma and Dave Travis 
Foreword by Rick Warren
This book evidently promotes Rick Warren's church growth concepts and so, he endorses it.  Thumma and Travis write the book to help dispel the "myths" small churches may have about large congregations and use the model of the megachurch to teach the smaller church pastors and laypersons, "valuable lessons."  The authors, touting themselves as experts, writing in support of the megachurch model, write persuasively to the church.

 Book advertisement declares that the book will "reveal what these churches are and are not, why they are thriving, what their members say about their experiences, and why they have many valuable lessons to teach smaller churches."

Within the pages of this book the pastors of small churches are encouraged to look to and accept their expertise,  follow the counsel they give in this book, learn these valuable lessons from the megachurch... (and from those who lead them, like Rick Warren) and change what they do in order to change.   By simply implementing the philosophies and methodologies that will grow their congregations large... fast, they too will have success.  Scott Thumma, (quoted from a 2010 CNN article) reflects, "Megachurches in part grew, because they were adaptive, innovative and resourceful   They, and their leadership, have a great ability to evolve."




Why Faith Matters by David Wolpe
Foreword by Rick Warren

The book advertises "Refuting the cold reason of atheists and the hatred of fanatics with a vision of religion informed by faith, love, and understanding, Rabbi David J. Wolpe follows in a literary tradition that stretches from Cardinal Newman to C. S. Lewis to Thomas Merton—individuals of faith who brought religion and culture together in their own works."

"Rabbi" David Wolpe, of Sinai Temple in Los Angeles CA, and Rick Warren of Saddleback Church are birds of a feather. They both are highly promoted in major public media, and they both believe a person must have "faith." There is another interesting similarity too; Wikipedia notes that Wolpe is named the "most influential" Rabbi in America by Newsweek Magazine, and he is identified one of the 50 "most influential" Jews in the world, according to the Jerusalem Post.

As Rick Warren connects the theological dot with Wolpe by endorsing his book, one might get the idea that it does not matter what exactly, a person's religion is as long as they have "faith," and as long as they happen to believe in "God." In fact, the first chapter of the book introduces us to Wolpe and his comforting of a dying friend. Rick Warren, endorses Wolpe, and this book, saying that Wolpe has "profound insights" that will "stimulate your thinking and even touch your soul about the reality of God in fresh and surprising ways."

Wolpe had no particularly profound insights about the afterlife to share with his dying friend. There was no bible verse, no mention of God forgiving sin. There was only an agreement between the two men facing mortality that they would "pass from this life with words of love and hope for awakenings to come." He did impart the "wisdom" of the dying mother of a ninety-year-old man that he was, at that time, studying scripture with. She had told her son, "My Child, do not be afraid, it is only death, and it has happened to everyone who has ever lived."


Driven by Destiny by Dr. Laverne Adams
Foreword by Rick Warren
Well, make no mistake, Rick Warren likes being driven and he has driven his congregation into a "Decade of Destiny."  It therefore makes sence that being Driven by Dstinty would be appealing to him.  LaVerne conviently says, "Make a Destiny Decision to advance forward making your Destiny Dream your current reality!" Making your  "Destiny Dream." you current reality is a little like having your "best life" now.

Rick also encourages pastors to be dreamers.  He says, "If you are going to be involved in ministry, you've got to be  a dreamer."   LaVern Adams, ("pastor" of Cathedral of Praise,) suggests in the advertising for her book, "that she can help you get started on the journey of living the life of your dreams."

Learning to Soar by Avery and Matt Willis
Foreword by Rick Warren and Henry Blackaby
The advertised "mission" of this book:
• Encourage you to leave your comfort zones
• Motivate you to respond to God's stirrings within your heart                                            • Help you take the risk of trusting God and stepping out into abundant living                        • Show you how to soar to unimaginable heights with God, by faith
Don;t plan to just "read" this book.  It has an eight unit or 8 week guide to study the book at the back of the book, so you can reflect on what you learn from this book.

A couple of thoughts and passages in scripture come to mind regarding the book's "mission."

1.  Regarding "leaving your comfort zones;" Some zones of comfort, like for example, the comfort of being close to the Shepherd.... you do not want to "leave."

"I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me." (Psalm 23)


Why would you want to leave that "comfort zone?" This doesn't make sense.

2.  Regarding a response to "stirrings of the heart," this scripture might resonate with a Christian:


"Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, 

and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them;"

3.  Regarding a "risk" of trusting God... and "stepping out into abundant living," is it, risky to trust God?  When Satan tempted Jesus, taking him up to the highest pinnacle of the temple, he sure seemed to be all about getting Jesus to "take risks" and "trust God" in doing so  We read:

"And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, 
and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:
 For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee 
and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any 
time thou dash thy foot against a stone" (Luke 4)

Jesus had an answer for him... one straight out of scripture.

4.  And about that "Soaring to unimaginable heights" or rather learning to soar with God; what does that mean?  What does it mean to soar with God by faith?

"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. (Isaiah 14:14)






Life's Healing Choices by John Baker,
 Foreword by Rick Warren
(This book is the Celebrate Recovery program of Saddleback Church repackaged specifically for people who do not need the AA approach to life in order to recover from alcoholism, but do "need" a 12 Step program like AA or Celebrate Recovery, in order to properly choose the eight healing choices in this book that will give them the "right" happiness and transformation.)

" Life’s Healing Choices offers freedom from our hurts, hang-ups, and habits through eight healing choices that promise right happiness and life transformation. Using the Beatitudes of Jesus as a foundation, Senior Pastor Rick Warren of Saddleback Church and John Baker, who is also a pastor at Saddleback, developed the eight choices shared in this book"



Empty Promises by  Peter Wilson
 Foreword by Rick Warren
Endorsed by Perry Noble, Steven Furtick and others.

Subtitled: "The Truth About You, Your Desires, and the Lies You're Believing"
Book description: "Join Pastor and best-selling author Pete Wilson in discovering the joy and freedom that comes with seeking after God with your whole life. Learn how to replace, and not just relinquish, life's empty promises by turning your focus and worship toward Him. It is the only thing that will set you absolutely free from the endless pursuit of everything else."

Question: Is this book being recommended to the general public or to the church?

Furthermore.... is this a book promoting Jesus Christ as savior from sin and death, or it is simply about  seeking after..an unamed, generic, "God?'" Also, is it about our ability to fulfill... not just this one commandment of having no idols, but that of us, us being able to fulfill and perfect keep God's law?

Peter Wilson. the author, writes, (in the chapter titled, the Idol Factory,) "I think this commandment, (the first) takes prominence because it is almost impossible for us to follow and obey the other nine if we break this first one." 

Question: Did he say, "Almost impossible?"...... "If?"

That is quite interesting and sounds legalistic in light of the gospel of God's grace to a people who are not able to keep the law perfectly.



Dangerous Church  by John Bishop 
Foreword by Rick Warren
Rick Warren, (the same guy who promotes meeting people's "felt needs" in church,) in the foreword to this book about how church is supposed to be "dangerous," confusingly criticizes the church for being welcoming and making things "safe" in churches.  (No kidding.) Our focus, he says, is off.  To switch things up a bit he says that instead, we are supposed to be "singularly, radically and dangerously focused on making disciples of every nation, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit."

Bet that sounds quite biblical.  It should.  It is in fact what churches HAVE been doing.... for hundreds of years.  Here's the irony.  While this sounds relatively "Christian," and while Christian do already do exactly that... Rick makes it out as a who new concept which it is... and actually it is not.  You see, baptism is not the most important thing.  Faith is... faith in Jesus Christ.  Maybe this is why Hebrews indicates Jesus is to be our focus.  Paul encouraged Timothy to "preach the word." Yet some will indeed, (see Matthew 23,)  endeavor to compass  about in order to make just one convert....  perhaps to follow them...... maybe even on facebook, and buy their books and study guides and DVD programs in order to learn everything they need to know...  like how to be "dangerous" instead of "safe."

Editorial Review of the book, submitted by the Pastor of the well-known Hillsong Church, who describes for us what a dangerous Church" is. It reads: "The Bride of Christ is rising on the earth like never before. A 'dangerous church' is a church that is alive, full of the lost and broken, a generous church that takes risks. It is a church that is willing to be exposed to misunderstanding and persecution for the sake of the gospel. John Bishop will confront, enlarge, and equip any leader who has the courage to read this book and do whatever it takes to see the cause of Christ advanced on the earth." -- Brian Houston, Pastor, Hillsong Church

Question: (There are many that this comment provokes.)
" Is the church full of the lost  and broken... or of the redeemed...those who are now in Christ, born again.... made anew?"

"If you do not have "the courage" to read this  book (or the courage to be "dangerous") does in mean you are the opposite of courageous?  A wimp?

Watch Trailers here and here.



Creating the Better Hour: Lessons From Willian Wilburforce

      Foreword by Rick Warren

"Our world needs a new generation of people like Wilberforce," writes Rick Warren in the foreword to the study guide, 'CREATING THE BETTER HOUR: Lessons from William Wilberforce.' Using the same words he uses to promote his P.E.A.C.E. plan, Warren says, "I hope Wilberforce's example will compel people to work together with others to defeat the evil giants that loom over the twenty-first century,"
The film that goes with the study guide is The Better Hour.   You can view the 2008 movie trailer here.



Tides of Change by Leonard Sweet and Rick Warren
This is an audio interview between Lenard Sweet and Rick Warren published way back in 1995 as a resource for Christian leaders.

Sweet and Warren still have had connections since them.   In 1999 Rick Warren endorsed the cover of  Sweet's Soul Tsunami book. Warren's words are, "Soul Tsunami shows us why these are the greatest days for evangelism since the first century."  In 2008, Sweet taught at a Saddleback Small Groups Conference.  Rick via his website, pastors.com has endorsed Sweet's writings many times.  Here are some recent screen shots  of very recent endorsements, posted November 18th 2012, at the website of Frank Viola, "Beyond Evangelical."  Frank himself, author of yet another book he wrote with Sweet is happy to see it promoted on Rick Warren's website!  The book is Jesus, A Theography.

Read an informative commentary on the connections and joint ventures of this dynamic duo of Warren and Sweet by Lighthouse Trails,  here.



Magnificent Obsession by Anne Graham Lotz
(not to be confused with the 1954 Rock Hudson film... of the same title...right?)
Read this Newsweek article about Anne an promoting her book here.   Review Anne's Group Bible Study... read her book excerpts.  Also view her webpage where you can spend a lot of your money purchasing her many books, including the 7 week study guide to... her Rick Warren endorsed book,
         Magnificent Obsession Participants Guide:
                 Embracing the God-Filled Life 
                          Foreword by Rick Warren
Rick suggests, "Don't just read it, buy several copies and start a reading group with friends...."and "...then create some practical ways you can help each other practice the transforming truths of a God-filled life."



The Emerging Church: Vintage Christianity for New Generations by Dan Kimball
Foreword by Rick Warren
It is advertised as. "For pastors, leaders, and every concerned Christian, Kimball offers a riveting and easy-to-grasp exploration of today’s changing culture and gives insight into the new kind of churches that are emerging in its midst. Included is running commentary by Rick Warren, Brian McLaren, Howard Hendricks, and others."



Basic Christianity by John Stott (Fiftieth Anniversary Edition)
Foreword By Rick Warren
The book itself is named one of the Top 100 "Books of the Millenium" by World Magazine and listed amoung Christianity Today's Top 100 Books of the 20th Century

Named one of the Top 100 Books of the Millennium by World magazine and listed among Christianity Today's Top 100 Books of the 20th Century. Anne Graham Lotz says,
"Anything John Stott says is worth listening to. Anything he writes is worth reading. Basic Christianity is not only a classic must-read for every believer; it is truly a blessing preserved on the written page for the enrichment of this generation and those to come." 

"Must read?"  John Stott has written over fifty books and articles, like this one, Four Ways Christians Can Influence the World, published in Christianity Today Magazine, October 2011.

Who is John Stott? You can watch a brief memorial to the man John Stott here... Godtube.com

He was most definitely a mentor to Rick Warren and he endorsed Rick's P.E.A.C.E. Plan, having spoken at Saddleback wearing a Hawaiian shirt... (imitating Rick.)  Additionally, John Stott, together with Rick Warren and Billy Graham signed onto the "ONE campaign... the one with  "Justice, Not Love," being the motto of the organization.



One Month to Live Thirty Days to a No-Regret Life 
by Kerry and Chris Shook
Foreword By Rick Warren

"Each of One Month to Live's 30 chapters—one for every day in a life-changing month—offers fresh strategies for overcoming habits that mire Christians in mediocrity"

"Thirty Days to a No-Regrets Life encourages readers to face their own mortality and live life to the absolute fullest."


Free resources for this book provided here.

Pastor's Handbook by John R. Bisagano
Foreword by Rick Warren
After 60 years in ministry, we are told.... "Bisagno still mentors young pastors in his retirement and recognizes new challenges in this profession known for its high dropout rate. Keeping that in mind, Pastor’s Handbook adds helpful entries on such issues as “The Seeker Friendly Church,” “Solving Worship Wars,” “Multiple Campuses,” “New Media,” and “Home Groups” as well as “Internet Pornography,” “Biblical Inerrancy,” “The High Cost of Overnight Change,” “Homosexuality,” “Christianity and Islam,” and more than a dozen other timely topics."
Rick Warren in his endorsement on the back of the book's cover, identifies John Bisagano as "a giant." 


Only You Can Be You by Erik Rees
(A "Saddleback Pastor")

Foreword by Rick Warren

What will this book offer the reader? ... Advertising says, "First, you’ll think through your own life-purpose statement, remind yourself daily of your spiritual importance, and learn how to make life-affirming, healthy choices that honor your own God-given, unique talents."
It seems to be all about that special person.... "you!"

Your own life purpose statement.... reminding yourself..... of YOUR spiritual importance and doing things that honor your own "uniquely "you" talents.






Lead Like Jesus, by Ken Blanchard, Rick Warren and Bill Hybels

"Jesus poured His life into the training of His disciples in the first three leadership arenas, and during that process, He equipped them to follow His leadership philosophy after He was gone as they moved to the organizational level and attempted to establish the church."
That is odd. Book cover says Jesus "attempted to" establish the church?

Only "attempted?"  Does this mean they accomplished the task or just simply tried?  Who atually builds or "establishes" the church anyhow?

More information on Ken Blanchard, Rick Warren and Bill Hybels here, (at letusreason.org.)



Use Your Brain to Change your Age by Dr. Daniel Amen

Heartily endorsed by Rick Warren on the back cover, saying, "I want to stay sharp, and that's why I read everything Dr. Amen writes, and you should too!" Rick Warren, May 2012

Everything? Hmmm, makes one wonder why Rick fails to warn Christian readers of the Kirtan Kriya mediation methods based on the five primal sounds that Amen endorses on page 238 of his book, Making a Good Brain Better.   He also refrains from warning them about tantric sexuality, also endorsed by Amen in his book Create More Passion Tonight, co-authored with T.J. Bartel.





The Blood Sugar Solution by Dr. Mark Hyman

Endorsed by Rick Warren who says, "Dr. Mark Hyman makes managing your health simpler than you ever thought possible. There's no time like the present to get started. Don't wait till tomorrow! Start today!"

Rick obviously believes you should listen to Hyman and learn from him, in matters of managing your health. He declares him an "expert" and like Amen, Hyman is not a professing Christian.  This of course, has drawn criticism for Rick and his church.

 In defending this Saddleback reports,  "Saddleback in no way endorses any teaching outside of Scripture. We may ask a physician for advice about physical health matters, but the beliefs of our church are carefully guarded by Pastor Rick and all of our Pastors. You can rest assured we will never compromise our belief that Jesus is the only way to heaven or that the Bible is the 100% completely infallible and perfect Word of God. These Doctors are helping us as friends, but are in no way advising our church on spiritual matters."

These doctors are just helping Saddleback Church.... "as friends."

Mark Hyman is Jewish.  He does not believe Jesus is Messiah.   More importantly though, Mark Hyman personally promotes Tibetan meditation... Daili Lama. style.  Talk about "eternal life..."  Daili Lama and Mark Hyman, can teach you to stimulate your "vagus nerve" through meditative practices.... and help you live to be 120 years old!  

Mark tells his readership, "We have the power to create new cells and renew our organs and tissues at any age." Yes, the Daniel Plan is all about being "healthy."  We have the power to create....new cells and renew our organs and tissues at any age?

With claims like these, contrary to what Jesus taught in Matthew 6, you might soon believe that you can renew your organs or even add a cubit to your statute..... if you listen to and practice the wisdom on health issues given you by Hyman.




And finally... on this long list of forewords and endorsements....there is T.V. Star and heart surgeon, Dr. Melmet Oz.  To find out more about who Dr. Oz is, see Faces of America at pbs.org or read the article on Mr. Oz at wikipedia.  Like Rick Warren, Oz is author of several books.  His works include, 
Healing From the Heart, by Dr. Melmet Oz
            and 
             YOU, the Owner's Manual, by Dr. Melmet Oz


While he has not written a forward for these books, "Pastor" Rick embraces OZ, his television show and prominently places him on a pedestal before the church as an "expert" to be leistened to for wisdom...just like he has done Hymen and Amen.  He opens the door for them to speak into the lives of his own church members as well as any other churches in America who subscribe to the Purpose Driven regime.  Rick Warren even claims to have cooked up.... (created,) a special plan with Oz and friends, to get the church "healthy." That plan is called the Daniel Plan.

Odd, isn't it, that none of these three men share Rick Warren's faith?

Dr. Oz, like Amen and Hyman, does not profess to be Christian; He professes to be Muslim.  Ox is also a "spiritual" man who practices and promotes what Christians call "New Age" pratices, (like  Reiki  and necromancy.)  He has even produced a show to share Reiki with the public.

Are there no Christian doctors, exercise experts or nutritionists that Rick could partner with?  Is Warren's selection of high profile, influential non professing Christian people simply an accident?

Rick is probably quite purposeful in selecting what he says and does not say and you can almost be sure there is intention behind his endorsement for each and every one of these people and these many books.  You and I might not know what that intention is, but we can rest assured that he who knows all things, who knows the end from the beginning, and who warned us explicitly not to follow after other gods or be unequally yoked with unbelievers... (a.k.a. God,) does.

And who, if they are kept busy reading all this other reading material... books and study guides, DVDs classes, campaigns and seminars.... will ever have time to simply read God's book?














Thursday, December 27, 2012

Fish Think

"If you’re going 
to be good at fishing, 
you’ve got to learn 
to think like a fish"
-Rick Warren
To Catch Fish, Learn To think Like Them 
by Rick Warren,
 11/16/12 
Christian Post,
christianpost.com


Rick wrote an article for the Christian Post recently whereby he instructed his readership, "If you’re going to be good at fishing, you’ve got to learn to think like a fish. If you’re going to be an effective fisher of men, you’ve got to think like a lost person."- Rick Warren

Really?   Did he, as pastor, just say that to be an effective "fisher of men," (as Jesus told his disciples they would be when they followed him,) you've got to (learn to) think like a "lost person.' Such a comment kinda makes a person wonder..... did he just make that up?

Did Rick Warren get this concept from the Bible? If so, where does the bible teach this? He didn't mention anything about that.  Do you wonder why?  Also, is it true that learning to think like a "lost person" will make you a better "fisher of men?"

True or not, Rick expects you and every other reader of the Christian Post, to believe what he says,  but do not let the proverbial "wool" be easily pulled over your eyes! This is hardly biblical advice. The way to be better fishers of men, in to know the word, and preach it, in season or out...

If you remember your scripture, you might recall that young Timothy was encouraged to "preach the word," in season and out of season. (2 Timothy 4:2) This would infer that any lost person was as fair game as anyone, fair game, anywhere, anytime. God's Word preached to them, would be the hook, they would perhaps believe, and subsequently be saved from the depths of their sin and ultimate condemnation for sin. Besides, it's not really that difficult to walk in the flesh, hate God and think there is some righteousness in yourself as many a lost persons tend to do. Rick suggests, that you, Christian, learn how to think like a lost person, that is, if you want to be a really good "fisher of men."

But bad enough as it is, (according to Pastor Rick,) to be a "Christian" who has no concept of what it is like to be a "lost person," look out! Pastors are (apparently,) even worse.... And wouldn;t you know, Rick makes himself out to be even worse... he's a "son-of-a-pastor! and you know how BAD they are! If you do not know, Rick here, (in this same article) will tell you... there is a big problem:

"Here’s the problem. Unfortunately, the longer you are a Christian, the less you think like an unbeliever. I don’t think like a non-Christian; I think like a Christian. In fact, I think like a pastor. That’s even worse! It’s two generations removed from the people I want to reach."  - Rick Warren                                                                                                                                

To Catch Fish, Learn To think Like Them by Rick Warren, 11/16/12 Christian Post, christianpost.com

"If you’re going to understand and reach non-Christians, you’ve got to begin with their mindset. The Bible says in Luke 6, “Jesus knew what they were thinking” (GW). In fact, multiple times in Scripture we read that Jesus knew what the people whom he was ministering to were thinking. Jesus gives us a great example of someone thinking like a fish."-Rick Warren

To Catch Fish, Learn To think Like Them by Rick Warren, 11/16/12 Christian Post, christianpost.com

No.  Jesus was not thinking like those fish.  You see, Jesus knew their thoughts because he is omniscient...  He's God.  God knows all things.  This was not some Rick Warren Fish Think technique that Jesus happened to have employ.

Rick will continue the deception and enlighten you once more with his wisdom about how wrong the church is.... (well, all those "many churches,") you can bet that he does not refer here to his preferred brand of church when he says,

"Unfortunately, many churches don't take the time to understand the people they want to reach and they don't have a strategy. They want to win people to Christ as long as it can be done in a comfortable way."-Rick Warren
Rick Warren: Jesus gave five fishing guidelines for evangelism By Jon Walker, 

But Rick has a strategy.... one that you can purchase from Saddleback.com.  In fact he has quite a few products for sale that you can implement, for a fee.

You might even say that his entire "fishing for men," concept has more to do with economics than the kingdom of God, for Rick suggests you invest a lot of money in fishing, so that you get a big return.  He says that the financial return is proportional to your investment.  The reason that you need to fish and fish well, is because money just pours out from all thoses fishes mouth! (Just like Matthew 17:27!)

Third, when you spend nickels and dimes on evangelism, you get nickel and dime results. Do you remember the story about the time Jesus told Peter to go find money in a fish’s mouth in order to pay the Roman taxes? In Matthew 17:27 (NIV) Jesus told Peter, "... go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin.” I believe there is an important lesson in that story: The coin was in the mouth of the fish! If you’ll focus on fishing (evangelism), God will pay your bills!" -Rick Warren

How Much Does Evangelism Cost? By Rick Warren Pastors.com


So church, remember....you need to change. Start thinking like unbelievers.... and stop writing things that won't appeal to unbelievers too.

"We must learn to think like unbelievers in order to win them," appealed Warren. "The problem is the longer you are a believer, the less you think like an unbeliever. Your interests and values change. You must intentionally change mental gears when seeking to relate to non-Christians." Using church advertising as an example, Warren said most of it is written from a believer's viewpoint, not from the mind-set of the unchurched. He asked, "When you see a church ad that announces 'Preaching the inerrant Word of God,' who do you think that ad appeals to?"

Question:

Using the advertising example of a church advertising not being appealing to unbelievers, how might the church retain those same unbelievers who have now been lured into the church pews with Warren's idea of appropriate bait....since they are those who oppose the notion of the Word of God being preached at a church?


2 Corinthians 6 14-18
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: 
for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial?
or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?
for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said,
I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, 
and be ye separate, saith the Lord,
and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
And will be a Father unto you,
and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Driven

driv·en  

Adjective
  1. Operated, moved, or controlled by a specified person or source of power.
  2. Motivated or determined by a specified factor or feeling.


Driven?
Who or what is "driving" you?


Press Play


The band "RUSH" ...
                                                              "Driven"

Driven up and down in circles
Skidding down a road of black ice
Staring in and out storm windows
Driven to a fool's paradise

It's my turn to drive
But it's my turn to drive

Driven to the margin of error
Driven to the edge of control
Driven to the margin of terror
Driven to the edge of a deep, dark hole

Driven day and night in circles
Spinning like a whirlwind of leaves
Stealing in and out back alleys
Driven to another den of thieves

But it's my turn to drive
But it's my turn to drive

Driven in...Driven to the edge
Driven out...On the thin end of the wedge
Driven off...By things I've never seen
Driven on...By the road to somewhere I've never been

But it's my turn to drive
But it's my turn to drive

The road unwinds towards me
What was there is gone
The road unwinds before me
And I go riding on

But it's my turn to drive
But it's my turn to drive



Don't be driven.  Be lead, by Jesus.

Keep following Jesus.


1 Corinthians 11:1-3

King James Version (KJV)
Paul speaking...
 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you. But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.



John 10:26-28

King James Version (KJV)
Jesus speaking:
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.


Monday, December 3, 2012

Rick Warren and The Purpose Driven Church Details


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"Can the Church borrow the marketing tools of the world and apply them to the Church? What is the history of the Church Growth movement and its false premises? " 

 This is a good question! and it comes from the webpage perfectpeaceplan.com.  Check it out!  There you will find a video that you will want to view if you are interested in all things Rick Warren.  It's long... but well worth the watch as it is extremely fact filled, biblical and informative.   

See:
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Church of Tares: Purpose Driven, Seeker Sensitive, Church Growth and New World Order


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Saturday, December 1, 2012

"Syncretism" ala Rick...


"My life and ministry are built on the truth that Jesus is the only way, and our inerrant Bible is our only true authority." -Rick Warren
Rick Warren Builds Bridge to the Muslims by Jim Hinch, Orange County Register Life, Feburary 23, 2012, Updated March  12, 2012

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Rick Warren, with the republication of his book, the Purpose Driven Life, is making public appearances on television.  This week, while Rick was being interviewed by CNN correspondent Piers Morgan, Morgan took the opportunity to question Rick if homosexuality is "a sin" or not.  Pastor Rick replied,
"I
t’s not a sin to love somebody,” and then added, “It might be a sin to have sex with them.”
CNN News  Interview with Peirs Morgan, CNN Belief Blog, 11/29/2012
"Might be a sin?" 

He apparently knows what is not a sin, (so that what is not a sin can be embraced) but when it comes to what sin IS.. Rick is clueless, or at least willingly ambiguous.  This is surprising for someone who claims to read so much,  know and teach so much to so many people and who claims to divulge so many "secrets" if you listen to his wise words.  Rick is supposedly also "a pastor" to pastors, "America's Pastor" some would say.  Yes, it is quite surprising that he would be unable to answer Mr. Morgan's very important question with a simply yes or no.  Instead Rick said, "It might be."

Apparently things are not light and dark, black and white.... up and down or even yes and no.  Gray. twilight thinking and and a "might-be" is all you get.  If you didn't know the truth on the matter, before you asked Pastor Rick, you still don't know.  

Rick then went on  in his conversation with Morgan to say how he and Kay Warren have homosexual friends... and how much time and money and effort they have personally given to combats and research a cure for AIDS, (a terrible and deadly blood disease that is well-known as a communicable problem within the homosexual community.)   Rick and Kay have donated millions of dollars,  he says.

It's great of Rick to have care and compassion for these hurting people, and it is great to use your wealth to make friends.  It's actually very nice that there is a big party going on here.... However, Rick's friends are intoxicated with something that is going to harm them -  sin and truth is, friends don't let friends drive when they are intoxicated. 

By being ambiguous with this answer, Pastor Rick has just let all his intoxicated friends  walk out the door with keys in their hands aiming to drive a treacherous road.  With the entire world listening and watching, looking for an answer from the pastor at the  microphone, he told them all, via CNN, that they might make it... but they might not, he just didn't know, when he told them that homosexuality "might be a sin."  He simply let their troubled souls get in their cars and drive off into the twilight where light and dark, day and night, right and wrong, mingle.



The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.


2 Corinthians 6:14 
 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?



Jesus answered, "Are there not twelve hours in the day? 

If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, 
because he seeth the light of this world."


This is syncretism.

Twilight is temporary.  Soon twilight will be changed to either night or day and these "friends" of Rick will be left believing there is no right or wrong in this matter.  No "light" was shed on the subject.

It was not very long ago that any pastor who believed the Bible would tell you plainly what human behaviors were sinful... based on what the scriptures claimed.  They would tell you plainly the good news of Jesus Christ's resurrection from death and invite you to repent from sin and make a proclamation of faith in Him who made the way for our forgiveness and open the way to life with God in heaven when the day comes that you die.  There's Rick on TV, and he is neither hot not cold about important issues...like Biblical authority and what the Bible says, and he makes no bones about it.... he is an "evangelical" pastor.

Heather Clark, a reporter for the Christian News Network quoted Rick making this assertion that day, 
“I make no bones about it. I’m an evangelical pastor, so my source of authority is, 'What does the Bible say about it?'...However, people will have other sources of authority.....Or, different readings of the Bible...that is very true.”  -Rick Warren

Rick Warren Uncertain if Homosexual Behavior is Sinful, Says ‘Gays’ Go to Heaven by Heather Clark Christian News Network, 11/29/2011


People have other sources of authority than the Bible and that is just fine?


This is more syncretism.
(The above link takes you to a teaching by a man, Santos Bonacci, who believes he understands all religions... and that he can  "scientifically" prove, or demonstrate how good and evil exist together and that every religion needs to agree to this notion of religious syncretism.  Be warned... He believes you pray to yourself when you pray to your "god" (universal mind) regardless the religion "god" you pray to.  He is also unaware the the truth of God  in Jesus Christ, who he claims is a "legend," and no more of a real man that Hercules, that is right before his eyes and he seeks to bring "syncretism" to the world.)

Apparently, to Rick, the Bible is only one of many (legitimate?) sources of "authority" for people to look to for answers.   (Note: The Holy Bible that is the supposed authority for Rick, is too vague about homosexuality for him to give a definitive answer on that subject.)   


Rick believes that no matter your faith .. no matter your authority.. bible or not, all  "people of faith" have to unite as one: 

"I can take you to ten million villages around the world that the only thing in it is a church. And we are in more locations than the United Nations.  We speak more languages than the United Nations.  We are a thousand more people groups than the United Nations.  You see, there are 600 million Buddhists in the world.  There are 800 million Hindus in the world.  There are a billion Muslims in the world. But there are 2.3 billion Christians in the world.  If you take people of faith out of the equation you have ruled out five-sixths of the world.  So we have to mobilize this, this, these faith groups to do—to work together on these issues that have been unsolvable.  And the church has, of course, the greatest distribution."-Rick Warren
Rick Warren personally addressing "Youtubbers"  a in You Tube Video:“Rick Warren Answers the DAVOS Question” posted January 25, 2008

Note how the church has encompassed the earth.  The church is everywhere....
Just as God has said.


"I can take you to ten million villages around the world that the only thing in it is a church." 
Rick can do this?  Wow.  He, personally, has access to all the churches in the world?
Well he has sort of usurped that position...
but they do not belong to Rick, even if he says, "WE."
"And we are in more locations than the United Nations. We speak more languages than the United Nations. We are a thousand more people groups than the United Nations."
That was to puff up your "ego" church. 
To make you feel big and strong.
This is too:

"You see, there are 600 million Buddhists in the world."
"There are 800 million Hindus in the world." 
There are a billion Muslims in the world. "
"But there are 2.3 billion Christians in the world.  If you take people of faith out of the equation you have ruled out five-sixths of the world." (The Christians are, you see, " winning.")

People of faith?  He just lumped them all together like they are all the same.  

They are not all the same.  

They do not all walk in the light...

John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light
 of life.


This abandonment of Christian Doctrine
in order to walk in darkness and half-light
instead of light 
is: 
 Syncretism.

40 bible verses about syncretism: here.

"So we..." (Perhaps you noticed, Rick has just put himself in charge of ALL churches everywhere.)"... have to mobilize this, this, these faith groups (which ones?)  to do—to work together (Sync?) on these issues that have been unsolvable.  (no solution?... Really?  What about the cross, what about Jesus...to these people in other religions who are working their way to God instead of coming to Him by faith?  What about love, compassion, truth, "light" ...things like that?)
and the church has, of course, the greatest distribution."-Rick Warren



Of course the church has the greatest distribution...
those apostles did what the Lord commanded.  
They preached the good news to the ends of the world... 
to every tongue and tribe and nation, just like he said.
and they didn't stammer, or fumble for words when 
asked if homosexual behavior is a sin.
No.  They were humble...
and quite separate in their thinking
 from the thinking of the rest of the world.
they believed Jesus was the only way...
the door.

And they warned us about knowing the scriptures and of 
being humble.



Rick says the church is great.... really great... speaks more languages, has more people groups that the United Nations..  He asserts that there are more Christians in the world than there are people of other religions.    He says too that the church, consisting of people working together.... people of all faiths harnessed under the direction of Rick Warren will solve the worlds problems when the church (finally) does what it is suppose to do and become useful for the distribution of goods and services and united with all people of faith peacabley to save humanity from the five evils in the world.


Have you read about Rick Warren's PEACE plan?
(His plan to save the world?)

  It's a plan to get all faiths united and working together, and he believes that is the only thing to slay these five evil giants that he is attempting to rid humanity of, and this is to bring peace and "save the world."  To combat the evils of:


1) "spiritual lostness"  (changed from the original, to "spiritual emptiness")
2) "ungodly leaders" (changed to "Self-serving leadership)
And he defined ungodly leaders in the world for us to by saying, ""Not only have these leaders not gone to seminary or Bible school, they haven’t even gone to high school or primary school. They have no training whatsoever -- and yet they lead the church. This must be remedied." ~  Rick Warren  November, 2003, (http://www.saddlebackfamily.com/peace/Services/110203_high.asx) 
3) poverty
4) disease
5) illiteracy



Rick wants to :

Plant churches that promote reconciliation  (See Saddleback resources)  
Equip servant leaders  (with his sanctioned materials for leadership)
Assist the poor  
Care for the sick
Educate the next generation

Where is the Prince of Peace in all of this?  He is suspiciously missing.  "Spiritual lostness" fell off of the map.  Apparently people just have unfulfilled lives without purpose... or maybe without prayer or without worship... BUT not a savior, the ONLY ONE, who will save them from sin.

Rick, he's really not sure if homosexual activity... men with men, women with women constitutes "sin" even though he quotes the many versions and paraphrases of the Bible that he does.  Besides, according to Rick, gay relationships are "legal," it just "not a big issue" to him. 

 "I have biblical views regarding what marriage is about. I am not in favor of redefining marriage, I'm not. It's not illegal to have a gay relationship, so it's not a big issue to me." -Rick Warren
                                   Christian Post article,  Rick Warren on Gay Marriage: 'Tolerance Does Not Mean Approval' by Stoyan Zaimoa  November 27, 2012



And Rick is definitive as to what will be the salvation of the world.... and it's YOU.  The way to end death and suffering, the way to "kill those five evil giants" that plague our world, is his PEACE plan his "holistic strategy....  "a "three legged stool" between business  governments and churches... or rather people of faith."

"The global P.E.A.C.E. coalition is a network of networks that enables strategic partnering among businesses, governments and churches...." - Rick Warren
Forward to a book of essays on "enterprise solutions to poverty" titled,  In The River They Swim,
 a book that he will "recommend" as a textbook to over 400,000 church in his "network."  


".....I stood up at the end and I said, let me just take five minutes to share with you why - going back to these three legs of the stool - government will never get it done on its own. Business will never get it done on its own. Churches and synagogues and mosques and temples and everything, we have to work together. We have to team tackle this." -Rick Warren
Pew Forum Event Transcript, The Future of Evangelicals: A Conversation with Pastor Rick Warren, November 13, 2009

This is syncretism.  

John 14:27

"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled,  neither let it be afraid."-Jesus